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I dont think so, at least not at first.I suspect our soon to be governor Healy will be doing end runs around the SCOTUS decision to curtail NY restrictions. We will see a lot of legislation limiting public places where firearms are allowed. She is not going to give up her agenda anytime soon.
Hey, he carries in Condition 2.That means I'd have to watch Longmire. I saw one episode and was not impressed.
Went to encore this past oct. No frisking, no detectors anywhere in the place. Even in the nightclub with a bunch of ghetto goblins in line, no checking for "weapons".Never heard that about casinos. Of course I've only been to a casino in MA once just to check out the Encore not too long after it opened.
The what?The constitution says shall not be infringed....
I believe it was Oregon, before they went nuts, that had a sign facing California, "Welcome to Oregon, Enjoy your stay, Then go home!"This is why you can't trust carpet baggers from the o' so great state of New Hampshire they move here and enact frivolous gun laws. I just don't know why we can't have a border law for those coming from New Hampshire that they can only stay here for no more than 30 days!
Thanks Len.Yes it is illegal in MA to POSSESS a firearm on ALL casino property. I have posted it before. It is 205 CMR 138.20
Likewise, it is illegal to possess a firearm on Massport airport properties unless it is in a locked case for checking in to a flight. It is 740 CMR 30.04-.05
Fortunately, CMRs don't have quite the same bite as MGLs, but they are still real.Yes it is illegal in MA to POSSESS a firearm on ALL casino property. I have posted it before. It is 205 CMR 138.20
Likewise, it is illegal to possess a firearm on Massport airport properties unless it is in a locked case for checking in to a flight. It is 740 CMR 30.04-.05
Longmire did get the reference to Oliphant v. Suquamish Indian Tribe correct. Impressive they dug that one out.That means I'd have to watch Longmire. I saw one episode and was not impressed.
Yes it is illegal in MA to POSSESS a firearm on ALL casino property. I have posted it before. It is 205 CMR 138.20
Likewise, it is illegal to possess a firearm on Massport airport properties unless it is in a locked case for checking in to a flight. It is 740 CMR 30.04-.05
No metal detectors that I could seeYup. You'll get trespassed if they catch you, but you can carry in a casino no problems.
Pre-parking lot shooting I'd carried in encore many times. They have a metal detector now, so instead of leaving my gun behind I just don't go.
here:wow. That is news to me. I'd never doubt you, I'll have to go read that. I find it odd because MGM Springfield is private property. I'm pretty sure I might have accidentally....oh nevermind.
Correct.so the special rights cops have to carry everywhere off duty don't apply to gambling establishments?
It's a startCorrect.
Is it really "illegal"? Sure, the CMR states that the casino must have and post a "no firearms allowed" policy, and the casino must remove anyone found with one while reporting said person's possession to the authorities. However, from what I can see, the CMR contains no direct prohibition on individuals carrying on the property nor proscribe any punishment for doing so. It just says if they find you, they toss you.Yes it is illegal in MA to POSSESS a firearm on ALL casino property. I have posted it before. It is 205 CMR 138.20
Is it really "illegal"? Sure, the CMR states that the casino must have and post a "no firearms allowed" policy, and the casino must remove anyone found with one while reporting said person's possession to the authorities. However, from what I can see, the CMR contains no direct prohibition on individuals carrying on the property nor proscribe any punishment for doing so. It just says if they find you, they toss you.
Am I missing something?
Yes it is illegal in MA to POSSESS a firearm on ALL casino property. I have posted it before. It is 205 CMR 138.20
Likewise, it is illegal to possess a firearm on Massport airport properties unless it is in a locked case for checking in to a flight. It is 740 CMR 30.04-.05
CMRs sometimes have penalties proscribed, but they are generally non-criminal and don't bring risk of a "PP for life" scenario. What is undetermined at this point is how a report to your issuing authority that you violated that CMR would have on the evolving definition of suitability as applied in MA. Realistically, this was a favorable scenario compared the alternative of MA getting the mode of updating the law to create more carve-out zones.No, the way I read that is the same as you, they must have a policy, and they must trespass you if you are found in there. That does not make it illegal to be there with a firearm, and it does not seem to allow them to do anything to you except ask you to leave.
I don't know what Len is seeing in there that would indicate it was illegal simply to possess a gun there, but there may be something in there I am missing.
Last time I went in for work related reasons I noticed a sign. It didn't change my mind but I did see it.No metal detectors at the Casino in Springfield or if there are they don't work. Concealed is concealed. My wife loves to go to the casino and sometime I will accompany her. Not to gamble I do not derive any pleasure from gambling but to keep her company while she losses money. She likes to play this card game Let It Ride. She has a good time losses some money and never questions anything i purchase win win for me. Back to guns in the casino there are no signs so as long as you don't flant it I guess it is ok.. I have never had a problem
Is it really "illegal"? Sure, the CMR states that the casino must have and post a "no firearms allowed" policy, and the casino must remove anyone found with one while reporting said person's possession to the authorities. However, from what I can see, the CMR contains no direct prohibition on individuals carrying on the property nor proscribe any punishment for doing so. It just says if they find you, they toss you.
Am I missing something?
No, the way I read that is the same as you, they must have a policy, and they must trespass you if you are found in there. That does not make it illegal to be there with a firearm, and it does not seem to allow them to do anything to you except ask you to leave.
I don't know what Len is seeing in there that would indicate it was illegal simply to possess a gun there, but there may be something in there I am missing.
That's what the Back Room is for....The wording is curious, as is mandates the casinos to have a no guns policy, but does not provide a penalty for breaking it.
Not necessarily - they may actually realize this is a non-issue (the media last reported only 4% of licenses were restricted, my figures from a few years ago was 92%). This is not like NY where the situation goes from VIPs only to large number of commoners.I was thinking about this today. I don't expect that much will happen before the election, but next January the legislature will introduce a bill widely expanding "sensitive places." That will likely include all state buildings, all county, city, and town buildings, all hospitals and medical facilities licensed by the state, the MBTA and all other transit systems in the state. Probably others I'm not thinking of as well.
And they were restricted to stupid sh*t like "range" ... so you could still get on a train with your gun to go to the range. (Unless the MBTA was already no go).Not necessarily - they may actually realize this is a non-issue (the media last reported only 4% of licenses were restricted, my figures from a few years ago was 92%). This is not like NY where the situation goes from VIPs only to large number of commoners.