I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this.
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Yeah and I'll say it again for contexts sake: "There is a distinct difference between standing up for your rights and being an attention whore". Context is everything...
We weren't discussing Doobie or his "disloyalty," we were discussing him open carrying. Context is everything, my friend.
I respect a man who stands up for his rights.
it's not that hard. send an email, make a phone call. OP should've done the leg work before posting super secret inside info. unless, of course, it was just a "look at me! look at me!" kind of thread. it really doesn't do anyone any good to throw rumors out there.
You've been living in MA too long...Timber,
Trust me, the memo exists, was written, printed and distributed.
While I doubt it, it is possible the memo will be withdrawn, ammended and a new training memo will be issued after your inquiry, but claims that the memo was "only in discussion" are entirely false.
Here's some food for thought: You sent an e-mail to someone asking them, "Did you issue a memo instructing your officers to violate someones civil rights if they feel uncomfortable" and you expected an honest answer?
Timber,
Trust me, the memo exists, was written, printed and distributed.
While I doubt it, it is possible the memo will be withdrawn, ammended and a new training memo will be issued after your inquiry, but claims that the memo was "only in discussion" are entirely false.
Here's some food for thought: You sent an e-mail to someone asking them, "Did you issue a memo instructing your officers to violate someones civil rights if they feel uncomfortable" and you expected an honest answer?
Trust you? Based on what?
What you've provided is unsubstantiated rumor from unnamed sources.
What I've provided is documented, court admissible evidence claiming that what you're saying is false. That's why I did it via email, not via the " I made a phone call, and this is what they said" route. It's officially on the record now.
So the question is this: Are you willing to go on the record, in court, calling the CLEO of Merrimack, NH a liar?
I guess it's time to nut up, or shut up. Post your memo, your sources, and the conversations you've had with LEO's in Merrimack showing that Chief Milligan is providing false information about internal town business.
I guess it's time to nut up, or shut up. Post your memo, your sources, and the conversations you've had with LEO's in Merrimack showing that Chief Milligan is providing false information about internal town business.
Timber,
Trust me, the memo exists, was written, printed and distributed.
While I doubt it, it is possible the memo will be withdrawn, ammended and a new training memo will be issued after your inquiry, but claims that the memo was "only in discussion" are entirely false.
Here's some food for thought: You sent an e-mail to someone asking them, "Did you issue a memo instructing your officers to violate someones civil rights if they feel uncomfortable" and you expected an honest answer?
OK, I'm confused - there's a rumor of a memo, someone called and asked the local department if such memo exists and was assured it didn't, and your response is 'well, of course they'd say that'.
WTF? This is classic conspiricy thinking - an assertion is made, proof is attempted to be obtained, said proof doesn't exist and the theorist says, 'well of course, they destroyed it' or some such. It's like trying to prove a negitive - you can't do it.
WTF? This is classic conspiricy thinking - an assertion is made, proof is attempted to be obtained, said proof doesn't exist and the theorist says, 'well of course, they destroyed it' or some such. It's like trying to prove a negitive - you can't do it.
Bob you are sooooooo close minded my man.
I have a calculator that does divide by zero, the proof of my assertion is that there is a 0 on the calculator. Its a fact. You cant deny this.
Bob you are sooooooo close minded my man.
I have a calculator that does divide by zero, the proof of my assertion is that there is a 0 on the calculator. Its a fact. You cant deny this.
just to put this to bed. here is my exchange with Chief Mike Milligan. I don't understand why someone would start a rumor, and then encourage a demonstration comprised primarily of out of staters open carrying, instead of just contacting the CLEO to verify the facts. Having 30 or 40 people showing up at a restaurant open carrying would do more harm than good in this case.
Believe me to be an attention whore if you wish. Believe Mike Mulligan if you wish, honestly it makes no difference to me. I was provided information about a training memo which was distributed to the Merrimack Police Department in response to recent Open Carry events instructing Police Officers how to respond. I passed this information to to the forum because I believed some here would like to know.
I never advocated any action based on the information. Check the original post, I specifically stated, "Do with this as you may"
Also, as was stated in the original post, the memo does not instruct officers to unilaterally detain any person who is openly carrying a firearm, but instructs an officer to "use judgement" and if the person is "making you uncomfortable" to detain them for a background check, and release them if the background check comes back clean.
I apologize that I can not "put this to bed" with a copy of the memo. I can't. While I have held and read the memo, I was not given leave to copy or scan it. I understand that I am providing no "evidence" of the existance of the memo, just asking you to consider that the "evidence" which was provided to the contray was an e-mail asking the chief of police if he had instructed his officers to violate the constitutional rights of citizens in his town.
Believe me to be an attention whore if you wish. Believe Mike Mulligan if you wish, honestly it makes no difference to me. I was provided information about a training memo which was distributed to the Merrimack Police Department in response to recent Open Carry events instructing Police Officers how to respond. I passed this information to to the forum because I believed some here would like to know.
Ok, this myth/rumor may have been busted but I'm a bit pissed I was FINALLY going to make it to an NES event and now it's canceled bah humbug.
Just how deep does this conspiracy run?More bad news, it appears the proposed location (Silo's Steakhouse) has closed.
http://www.merrimackforum.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5726
-Nat
Just how deep does this conspiracy run?
Laugh all you want, but the authorities must have heard about our nefarious plan.
TEAM ALPHA: Go to plan Bravo! I repeat ... go to plan BRAVO!!
Authorization phrase is "The Eagle Flies at Midnight."
What happened to "The chair is against the wall"?
Laugh all you want, but the authorities must have heard about our nefarious plan.
TEAM ALPHA: Go to plan Bravo! I repeat ... go to plan BRAVO!!
Authorization phrase is "The Eagle Flies at Midnight."
That's for Plan Charlie.
Or was, until you gave it away.
I fail.[sad2]
ETA: I tried but I can't neg myself.