New panic buying 5.56/.223?

[rogersmithiii]

That’s per rifle, correct?

No. Per caliber that you own. On the shelf, untouched. If you shoot, you probably need 1 - 3000 more. And that does not include .22.

At least that's John Farnam's advice.

 

[Grendizer138]

You’re going to wait until the summer before an election to buy? You’re doing it wrong.

 

[rogersmithiii]

Federal now in stock after TS realizes they were duped!


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J/k

Today, 5.56 plinking stuff is around $600 a thousand.

 

[Rocky Mosasaurus]

You’re going to wait until the summer before an election to buy? You’re doing it wrong.

At these prices I need to hold out a bit longer. It won’t be summer but probably Spring for me once things have dropped a little more as I’m liking the trend right and would like to see if around X39 price before I restock. This is assuming no irregular events occur and hike prices up once again; equis paribus, if you will.

 

[drgrant]

No. Per caliber that you own. On the shelf, untouched. If you shoot, you probably need 1 - 3000 more. And that does not include .22.

At least that's John Farnam's advice.

Whatever the advice is I guarantee it's too low.

I tell people at this point figure whatever you shoot annually and then double or quadruple it depending on what you can afford usually will not regret doing that later unless you're buying at full rape you're going to make out in the long run. I haven't been shooting much at all this year and I still am just randomly picking up cases of ammo whenever I can get my hands on it.

 

[rogersmithiii]

At these prices I need to hold out a bit longer. It won’t be summer but probably Spring for me once things have dropped a little more as I’m liking the trend right and would like to see if around X39 price before I restock. This is assuming no irregular events occur and hike prices up once again; equis paribus, if you will.

Before covid, I would do my big buy for the season in May. So prior to covid, I was pretty low. Then, Covid hit with all the newbies buying guns, and the ammo market disappeared.

So buying on the dips makes sense, but don't let your inventory get low, or you might find yourself in tight sneakers if something happens.

Both libs and conservatives are predicting some really unpleasant realities prior to and during November election season, so don't wait too long.

 

[Reptile]

800 Round Case - 5.56mm 55 Grain FMJ M193 Ammo Made by Lake City for Winchester - SP21114 | SGAmmo.com

800 Round case of 5.56mm 55 Grain FMJ Ammo Loose Pack Made by Lake City for Winchester4 boxes per caseFactory SKU number: WM193200Loose packed may be more or less a few roundsBrass case boxer primer, non magnetic FMJ BT bullet intended for usage as bulk target / range ammoManufactured by Lake...

www.sgammo.com

 

[DW357]

Define “extreme accuracy”
I’m calling bullshit on that. Winchester 55 gr ammo would not be my top choice for accurate factory ammo lol

 

[PappyM3]

Define “extreme accuracy”
I’m calling bullshit on that. Winchester 55 gr ammo would not be my top choice for accurate factory ammo lolView attachment 830514

An extreme 2 MOA ?

… if you’re lucky.

 

[DW357]

An extreme 2 MOA ?

… if you’re lucky.

Good enough for the average FS shopper I suppose lol

 

[Mesatchornug]

You’re going to wait until the summer before an election to buy? You’re doing it wrong.

I was thinking the autumn equinox...is that not right?

 

[Grendizer138]

I was thinking the autumn equinox...is that not right?

I’m not sure cuz you’re using school words.

If that means when you can afford it and it seems priced ok, then yes.

 

[Matt_SERE]

Does inflation apply here? 6000 is the new 4000?

Try buying garand ammo. $1.10 a round if you can find it.

I remember being pissed when the 'normal' reached $400 per 1K for xm193.

 

[Coyote33]

Prices are dropping slowly…looks like things should stabilize soon. Hopefully by Spring or Summer.

So what will be the 'new normal'?

I'd hope to use this as a starting point:

You can figure it was long ago.
30 a round was years ago.

 

[drgrant]

I remember being pissed when the 'normal' reached $400 per 1K for xm193.

I remember when Rileys used to have XM193 500rd "loaf boxes" for like $159 or less.


View: https://youtu.be/GI46_zBGv1A?si=XFL51jXQl6vV3hNn

 

[DJBrad]

I remember when Rileys used to have XM193 500rd "loaf boxes" for like $159 or less.


View: https://youtu.be/GI46_zBGv1A?si=XFL51jXQl6vV3hNn

And more recently in 2018 when you could get a 1k case of LC 5.56 for $275 no tax, free shipping, AND a rebate of $50 off that. If that wasn’t a deal…

 

[drgrant]

And more recently in 2018 when you could get a 1k case of LC 5.56 for $275 no tax, free shipping, AND a rebate of $50 off that. If that wasn’t a deal…

That's insanely good even ignoring the rebate. (Which i would never remember to fill out anyways)

 

[SKumar]

Define “extreme accuracy”
I’m calling bullshit on that. Winchester 55 gr ammo would not be my top choice for accurate factory ammo lolView attachment 830514

So that means my Wolf ammo is sub-MOA?

 

[Agnotology]

800 Round Case - 5.56mm 55 Grain FMJ M193 Ammo Made by Lake City for Winchester - SP21114 | SGAmmo.com

800 Round case of 5.56mm 55 Grain FMJ Ammo Loose Pack Made by Lake City for Winchester4 boxes per caseFactory SKU number: WM193200Loose packed may be more or less a few roundsBrass case boxer primer, non magnetic FMJ BT bullet intended for usage as bulk target / range ammoManufactured by Lake...

www.sgammo.com

you have to buy 2 boxes.

 

[Matt_SERE]

I remember when Rileys used to have XM193 500rd "loaf boxes" for like $159 or less.


View: https://youtu.be/GI46_zBGv1A?si=XFL51jXQl6vV3hNn

Ironically, that is where i got my last $400 per 1K purchase. I picked up a few for me and others in my family.

 

[Bt74]

Ironically, that is where i got my last $400 per 1K purchase. I picked up a few for me and others in my family.

Same here. I remember calling the to hold a case for me, offered my CC# and the said no problem, Thye'd hold one. Got there and there were like 4 cases out. Come to find out, the had a pallet full, but would only put out a half dozen at a time...to keep folks convinced they were getting the last of them!

 

[Amputee Marksman]

Before covid, I would do my big buy for the season in May. So prior to covid, I was pretty low. Then, Covid hit with all the newbies buying guns, and the ammo market disappeared.

So buying on the dips makes sense, but don't let your inventory get low, or you might find yourself in tight sneakers if something happens.

Both libs and conservatives are predicting some really unpleasant realities prior to and during November election season, so don't wait too long.

I barely survived the Covid meltdown. I have been buying since. I'm pretty well stocked up on ammo and now I'm concentrating on reloading supplies.

 

[Amputee Marksman]

Good enough for the average FS shopper I suppose lol

But not good enough when you need the head shot to put down the zombie.

 

[Amputee Marksman]

Ironically, that is where i got my last $400 per 1K purchase. I picked up a few for me and others in my family.

Last time I got sub $400 per 1k was some Lake City XM193 from TSUSA before the Wuhan Flu BS.

 

[rogersmithiii]

I remember when Rileys used to have XM193 500rd "loaf boxes" for like $159 or less.


View: https://youtu.be/GI46_zBGv1A?si=XFL51jXQl6vV3hNn

Before Covid, $289 / 1000 on special at Target.

 

[DJBrad]

Before Covid, $289 / 1000 on special at Target.

$225 after rebate in 2018

 

[paulleve]

$.27 per round on sale and after $90 rebate (that I am still waiting for) only three months ago! When it comes to ammo, the market is very fragile. All it takes is a shift in the world and some Youtube gun guys to say, "Quick, buy it now!" to cause the next panic buy, and crazy price increase.

 

[michaelpelosillc]

We've all gotten the letters recently that ammo prices are set to increase by anywhere from 7-14% by the end of Q1 2024 because of a powder shortage - again. Even if there isn't a shortage, the prices will increase because the ammo manufacturers say it must.

 

[mav]

We've all gotten the letters recently that ammo prices are set to increase by anywhere from 7-14% by the end of Q1 2024 because of a powder shortage - again. Even if there isn't a shortage, the prices will increase because the ammo manufacturers say it must.

There you have it, the “real” rate of inflation.

 

[michaelpelosillc]

There you have it, the “real” rate of inflation.

Yes. I should specify: they "anticipate" a shortage of powder, so they are raising prices now in order to get ahead of the "anticipated" global decrease of gun powder and related materials.