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Neighbors can seize your firearms?!?

It is not as simple as someone stated to 'uproot your family, sell your home and find new jobs'. I am not willing to settle, and finding something comparable to your current standard of life is extremely difficult. My husband and I have tried and it is not easy. These asinine laws make me crazy. I'd leave if I could.
 
That is a sad excuse. You can in fact move to another state quite easy and fast if you so choose to. It is not that you or anyone else can not move it is that you choose not to. There is a huge difference.


If this is truly your belief, then there is no way possible for me to simplify my reasons to a level you could understand.



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That is a sad excuse. You can in fact move to another state quite easy and fast if you so choose to. It is not that you or anyone else can not move it is that you choose not to. There is a huge difference.

Clearly you are either single, have no children, or all of the above! Obviously if you're alone, you can up and move anywhere, anytime as long as it's within your means. Having school age children, spouses, family, etc. usually puts a wrinkle into the plans of the typical guy wanting to move because the state is infringing on what many consider to be a hobby. Hell, I wanted to move long before I was even into guns because of the stupid infringements on my car hobby too, but alas, I'm still here...
 
It is not as simple as someone stated to 'uproot your family, sell your home and find new jobs'. I am not willing to settle, and finding something comparable to your current standard of life is extremely difficult. My husband and I have tried and it is not easy. These asinine laws make me crazy. I'd leave if I could.

In the same boat for now, but in 4 years no more kids in daycare. I will be voting with my feet.
 
The bit about exemption for criminal prosecution for someone to takes guns from a distressed person is immune from not only criminal prosecution, but safe storage laws and LTC/FID requirements.

It reminds me of when my wife took my mother in law's car keys. She called the police and reported that her daughter had stolen the keys. The police declined to prosecute, but told my wife she had no choice except to return the keys.[/QUOTE

So what happens if someone intentionally abuses the protections in this proposal? What about the real possibility someone does this as a hoax, or to get "even" with a sibling or spouse?

Finally, what was GOAL's input on this? Any word of a statement from Goal?
 
Don't tell your anti neighbors that you have firearms....



"Any person who, in good faith, conceals or carries away a firearm, rifle, shotgun, machine gun, assault weapon, large capacity weapon, large capacity feeding device, or ammunition, …; a covert weapon … ; any weapon the possession of which is prohibited by the terms of G.L.c.269, § 10(b); or any other item which is inherently dangerous; in order to prevent the availability of such an item to a party he or she reasonably believes to be a distressed person, shall not be prosecuted for the larceny of such item or the criminal possession or carrying of such item, or the improper storage of such item, and shall not be civilly liable for such acts; provided that, as soon as is safely practicable, and in any case within 24 hours, the party taking possession of the aforementioned item notifies the Massachusetts State Police or a municipal police department, arranges for law enforcement to take physical custody of the weapon, and provides a sworn written statement regarding the taking or concealment of the item, the identity and location of the prior possessor, and the nature and circumstances which led to the party’s conclusion that the prior possessor was a distressed person.”

Wow! This essentially means that anybody – a family member, a neighbor or even a radical anti-gun nut – can legally break into your home and take away your guns if he or she thinks you are too dangerous to have them. "
 
The bit about exemption for criminal prosecution for someone to takes guns from a distressed person is immune from not only criminal prosecution, but safe storage laws and LTC/FID requirements.

It reminds me of when my wife took my mother in law's car keys. She called the police and reported that her daughter had stolen the keys. The police declined to prosecute, but told my wife she had no choice except to return the keys.[/QUOTE

So what happens if someone intentionally abuses the protections in this proposal? What about the real possibility someone does this as a hoax, or to get "even" with a sibling or spouse?

Finally, what was GOAL's input on this? Any word of a statement from Goal?
The whole proposed bill is an over reach of state authority. The whole premise of taking a person's rights because they are perceived as being distressed, even though they are not a prohibited person by law, is bullshit.

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....and on the other side of it if they do break in and leave in a body bag it turns from gun confiscation to a self defense shoot.
 
just like anti gunners thinking to send unarmed people to steal guns from armed people. Sandy Hook and Aurora taught them nothing...
 
SO ****ing glad the wife is open to moving to Texas.

Yes, I know, "but all you're doing is running"

**** that. Im not running - I want a better place for my family and for my lifestyle. MA isn't it anymore.

Come to think of it, it probably never was.
 
It is not as simple as someone stated to 'uproot your family, sell your home and find new jobs'. I am not willing to settle, and finding something comparable to your current standard of life is extremely difficult. My husband and I have tried and it is not easy. These asinine laws make me crazy. I'd leave if I could.

So very true. I'm stuck here plain and simple unless I'm willing to leave a very safe 26 year job with an extremely high potential for early retirement. We don't have the need to care about kids or anything other than ourselves because that is how our lives have been formed together.
Sure, I/we could still leave but our standard of living does not include moving back in with my mother and my wife and I have clearly said my mother is not coming to live with us.


As for the OP... Ya, right. [rofl] My neighbors don't have the balls and one of them is a fellow owner.[smile]
 
Why is this even being considered this is so stupid it is scary. Why would they want people untrained and unarmed breaking in to a armed depressed persons home ? Why not just call the cops this is a job for them no
 
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The insanity never stops in this State.
And it likely never will until
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Massachusetts is busy legalizing hemp.

Proponents tell me it's useful for all sorts of things.

So let's modernize that image.

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How the... What the... How did this get thought up?... *it must have originated from a person or persons who do not read the MGL.

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come and take them.


dumbasses who want to lose their life attempting to "seize" any person's firearm (who they deem unstable) are on their own.
 
let's say they call the cops and tell them what they're going to do.....depending on the town, do they get a police escort to the door or what?
 
How the... What the... How did this get thought up?... *it must have originated from a person or persons who do not read the MGL.

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I can see the original intent of something like this being good. Give a 24 hour exeption from the MGL firearms requirements to help protect someone from themselves.

Take the situation of someone who is unstable and knows it. They are talking to their one remaining friend who doesn't have a license. The unstable person make some mention of being afraid they will do somethng to themselves. The friend offers to take the gun so they don't do something stupid. Unstable person hands over the gun.

Under current laws, the friend is now a felon. Under the proposed law the friend is not a felon provided they file papers with the police within 24 hours (or turn the gun over to a licensed individual?).

Like everything else in this state, the act of trying to make a law to correct for another law only manages to make things worse.
 
so they mange to get in the house, gun owner shoots them. now what, unauthorized access, gun owner has no knowledge of the process

defending his home. is the gun owner responsible for killing someone. I really doubt anyone in their right mind would do

this for fear of getting shot.


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SO ****ing glad the wife is open to moving to Texas.

Yes, I know, "but all you're doing is running"

**** that. Im not running - I want a better place for my family and for my lifestyle. MA isn't it anymore.

Come to think of it, it probably never was.



It's called "voting with your feet". We moved from Connecticut to Georgia for three reasons - my wife's health, taxes/CT's economy and CT's gun laws.

Yeah, it's a big deal moving after living somewhere for so long. We moved from one of the least gun friendly states in the nation, (according to the governor it has "commonsense gun laws"), to one of the most gun friendly states in the nation. It's been worth the aggravation.

We joined a gun club that's about 15 minutes from the house. It has 3 tactical pits, a 50 yard pistol range, 100 yard rifle range, 500 yard rifle range, archery range, skeet range, a stocked pond, a lodge. Open for shooting sunup to sundown, with a keypass gate. Membership limited to 500 families.
 
A part of me thinks this law is just setting the groundwork for legal confiscation--the .gov can't legally do it because of 2A, so they make it such that fellow citizens do the dirty work for them. Moms Demand and Bloomturd's goons breaking into people's homes to take their guns, because to them, it's reasonable to think that a person desiring to own a gun is mentally ill.
 
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