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I prefer the language “thumbjacking your shitbox” over fingerbanging your butthole..Lol mass is so much gayer to me now.
You guys should all move somewhere the govt isn't constantly fingerbanging your butthole while you're trying to make dinner
Good on them. A lot of FFLs just keep the standard caps to sell later and give you a gun with nothing if you're in a restrictive state.Bought Sig M11 from gunbroker with high cap mags and FFL "modified" mags with 10rd blocks.
Read upthread - there's no case law on this. Someone decided that epoxy is good enough - no one knows if that's overkill or not enough. Go figure.
This is hilariously stupid. If someone intends to have an illegal post-ban "high cap" mag, I'm sure plenty of businesses will ship them here without knowing (or caring about) silly MA laws. Why on earth someone would pay "1.5-3x the price" for them is beyond me.Badger Mountain Supply sells "magazine repair kits" and claims they are legal in all the commie states to own, *as long as you don't assemble them back to fully functioning standard capacity mags*. Their entire business strategy is to buy mags in bulk, take em apart and ship them disassembled but complete - follower, spring, body, base and sell it to you for 1.5-3x the price. What you do with it is up to you "wink wink". Which is why they also highly recommend you buy some quick super glue and ten round limiters just in case your local SWAT is on their way and you need to "demonstrate compliance". lol....
My question is - how is that legal? Wouldn't having all the components of a standard capacity mag constitute constructive intent? Just like having a completed lower and a 10.5 inch upper without the uncle feds stamp blessing is a no-no?
Badger Mountain Supply sells "magazine repair kits" and claims they are legal in all the commie states to own, *as long as you don't assemble them back to fully functioning standard capacity mags*. Their entire business strategy is to buy mags in bulk, take em apart and ship them disassembled but complete - follower, spring, body, base and sell it to you for 1.5-3x the price. What you do with it is up to you "wink wink". Which is why they also highly recommend you buy some quick super glue and ten round limiters just in case your local SWAT is on their way and you need to "demonstrate compliance". lol....
My question is - how is that legal? Wouldn't having all the components of a standard capacity mag constitute constructive intent? Just like having a completed lower and a 10.5 inch upper without the uncle feds stamp blessing is a no-no?
Read upthread.The blocking solution has to survive the determination and tools on hand of whatever cop is inspecting your stuff. Pray he isn't a douche with a sawzall.
(FTFY?)Wouldn't having all the components of a standard capacity mag constitute constructiveintentpossession?
Why would someone want to "prove a magazine is pre-ban"?I feel the greater issue is with "pre-ban" magazines. Unless there are date codes it is not easy to prove a magazine is pre-ban.
Can't help but imagine some type of Looney Tunes explosion.Read upthread.
Whatever cop is inspecting your stuff has to survive whatever blocking solution you used.
He should pray he isn't a douche with a ball peen hammer.
(FTFY?)
Why would someone want to "prove a magazine is pre-ban"?
In the American legal system, who has that job?
I still see nothing in MA law that says or implies in any way that a "blocked" post-ban hi-cap magazine is good to go. Other states which explicitly permit it, yes. Massachusetts, nyet! It's all a bunch of wishful thinking in my opinion. Still waiting for the first test case.
Carrying anything > 10 rounds other than a 100% legit without any "definition games" is very ill advised. If you are involved in a dynamic encounter, no matter how justified, the system will be looking for something to get you on and will be willing and able to expend the resources to do so. If you are super clean on the gun, mags and action expect the system to get video from any surveillance cameras present to see if they can get you for double parking.FYI I know someone who was stopped in Boston at gunpoint because of a "man with gun" call - not sure if be was printing, wind blew his jacket open, etc. Cops disarmed him and unloaded his magazine. He was not arrested and was eventually let go. Point being, it's possible for cops to be inspecting your mags without it being any sort of add-on offense.
I still see nothing in MA law that says or implies in any way that a "blocked" post-ban hi-cap magazine is good to go. Other states which explicitly permit it, yes. Massachusetts, nyet! It's all a bunch of wishful thinking in my opinion. Still waiting for the first test case.
Well, you can't blame a guy for assuming that in the Mass legal system,Protip: that's not how laws work, Beatrice
The problem is that there are a lots and lots of provisions of MA gun law that don't get used by Maura et al to zing folks on a daily basis. Hell, some probably don't even get used on a yearly basis. It doesn't mean that they can be wished away. They can certainly be ignored (and probably are by many), but they do still exist.On the other hand, if decades go by and no one ever gets jacked up on that,
it's nature's way of telling you that by and large courts aren't that desperate...
Why would someone want to "prove a magazine is pre-ban"?
In the American legal system, who has that job?
Yep, you are correct. However as much as you may find it repulsive if I can unquestionably demonstrate on the side of the road the magazine is a pre-ban it just might prevent me from being cuffed and stuffed and taken away. I know the burden of proof is on them but if I get busted and charged that causes me a lot of grief and whole lot of dig deep in my pocket for lots of $$ to walk away a free man when a simple manufacturer's date code might have prevented all of it.
Traffic cops are just as likely to have memorized Avogadro's NumberYep, you are correct. However as much as you may find it repulsive if I can unquestionably demonstrate on the side of the road the magazine is a pre-ban it just might prevent me from being cuffed and stuffed and taken away. I know the burden of proof is on them but if I get busted and charged that causes me a lot of grief and whole lot of dig deep in my pocket for lots of $$ to walk away a free man when a simple manufacturer's date code might have prevented all of it.
Traffic cops are just as likely to have memorized Avogadro's Number
as the grandfathering date for pre-ban mags.
Never underestimate how bad someone wants to make a name for themselves or get a promotion.Carrying anything > 10 rounds other than a 100% legit without any "definition games" is very ill advised. If you are involved in a dynamic encounter, no matter how justified, the system will be looking for something to get you on and will be willing and able to expend the resources to do so. If you are super clean on the gun, mags and action expect the system to get video from any surveillance cameras present to see if they can get you for double parking.
WRONG.Yep, you are correct. However as much as you may find it repulsive if I can unquestionably demonstrate on the side of the road the magazine is a pre-ban it just might prevent me from being cuffed and stuffed and taken away. I know the burden of proof is on them but if I get busted and charged that causes me a lot of grief and whole lot of dig deep in my pocket for lots of $$ to walk away a free man when a simple manufacturer's date code might have prevented all of it.
The worse thing you can do is talk the cops. STFU and let a lawyer do the talking.
I am trying to picture this in my head - guy is being searched (already a bad situation) when the cops find a loaded mag. The guy and the cop are sitting there talking about a date stamp on the mag like civilized people.
No matter how many times you say this, there is always someone here that posts how they will talk to the cops and talk themselves out of getting arrested.