MA. Pro GUN Legislation!

[Mike S]

Just thought I'd post this link in case some of you haven't seen it.

From our good friend Senator Stephen M. Brewer.

 

[cekim]

Well, hell has gotten markedly cooler in the past 18 months, but is there enough liquid nitrogen to get it that cold?

 

[Pilgrim]

straight, short and sweet...right to the point.

Doesn't stand a chance in Hell, I mean Massachusetts (same thing).

I sure hope I'm wrong.

 

[Kid Presentable]

the last 2 lines are KEY! hopefully...

 

[Larry Legend]

Makes too much sense to pass in MA.

 

[cekim]

Doesn't stand a chance in Hell, I mean Massachusetts (same thing).

Eh, MA will do just fine in Hell... In fact, I think its part of it already...

I hope you are wrong too...

Maybe its so short and simple that we can sneak it through without the rubber-stampers noticing...

 

[MrSparkle]

It's won't pass unless it's 1000 page bill worth billions and billions.


The libs won't know how to react to such a short, to the point bill.


Not a chance in hell.


Truly sad.

 

[jdubois]

That's not pro-gun legislation. That's pro-basic human rights legislation.

 

[upStomp]

How soon could we possibly see its passage into law? I think I hear an intruder making his way towards my bedroom right now.

 

[cekim]

That's not pro-gun legislation. That's pro-basic human rights legislation.

+whatever is in my green caterpillar to the left...

 

[Rob]

I like it, but like others have said, Nanny.MA.Gov will try it's hardest to soundly squash this.

 

[Underwhere]

Dreams can come true

 

[Chris]

I like it, but like others have said, Nanny.MA.Gov will try it's hardest to soundly squash this.

Yep, I can just hear the arguments:

HOW DARE YOU JUSTIFY THE DEATH OF ONE OF MY [STRIKE]VOTERS[/STRIKE] ah [STRIKE]CONSTITUENTS[/STRIKE] um [STRIKE]SUPPORTERS[/STRIKE] FELLOW HUMANS.

Yup, the concern for life will be high. (Political life that is.)

 

[RI_John]

IANAL, but I doubt this would ever pass in any Nanny State-- MA, RI, CT, NY, NJ, etc. MA already has a Castle Law for killing an intruder in your house, so I doubt they would feel the need to go further. This is similar in language to the "Stand Your Ground" laws that Free States like Texas, Tennessee, etc. have passed.

No chance in MA.

 

[drgrant]

That's not pro-gun legislation. That's pro-basic human rights legislation.

+1.... was just about to say that myself.

-Mike

 

[MXD]

Rather than complain, what can we do to help?

 

[jhblaze1]

Rather than complain, what can we do to help?

call your legiscritters and tell them you want them to pass it!

Better yet, write a letter and then follow up with a phone call.

 

[Tim111]

They'll be blood in the streets if this passes. Blood in the streets, mark my word.

/pathetic liberal rant

 

[yanici]

I noticed that it was filed in January of 2009. Where is it now? Something tells me it's in "Senate Limbo."

 

[Monty]

I'm just a bill
Yes I'm only a bill
And I got as far as Capitol Hill
Well, now I'm stuck in committee
And I'll sit here and wait
While a few key congressmen discuss and debate
Whether they should let me be a law
How I hope and pray that they will
But today I am still just a bill
​

 

[yanici]

I'm just a bill
Yes I'm only a bill
And I got as far as Capitol Hill
Well, now I'm stuck in committee
And I'll sit here and wait
While a few key congressmen discuss and debate
Whether they should let me be a law
How I hope and pray that they will
But today I am still just a bill
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I sent a copy of it and some corresponence to Sue Tucker, my Senator. Not expecting much back though. I'll let you'se know how it goes, if it goes.

 

[pbearperry]

Chances are they won't even bring it up for a vote.They will just sit on it untill the session is over.It's done all the time.This makes too much sense,therefore kapoot.

 

[hietpasr]

Speaking of Hell....


What the hell? I though MA had the Castle doctrine in place. Besides line 9 and 10, how does this differ from castle doctrine???

 

[Pete85]

Speaking of Hell....


What the hell? I though MA had the Castle doctrine in place. Besides line 9 and 10, how does this differ from castle doctrine???

This makes provisions for defense outside the home. It also means that "reasonible fear of grave bodily injury or death" isn't just a defense in court but precludes charges in the first place. On top of that, it prevents the assailant's kin from filing a lawsuit because you maimed/killed their "disadvantaged" family member.

This is like 1000 steps up from the current castle doctrine that MA has. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the current castle doctrine we have is something like:

In any criminal proceeding involving the use of deadly force, it shall be a defense that the accused was within their own dwelling and had reasonible fear of great bodily injury or death from their assailant

Stress the words criminal proceeding (not a civil lawsuit), "it shall be a defense" (not a presumption of innocence), and within a dwelling (not just any place you have a right to be).

 

[hietpasr]

Thanks for the explanation. I thought I was living under false premises

 

[center442]

I'm just a bill
Yes I'm only a bill
And I got as far as Capitol Hill
Well, now I'm stuck in committee
But in this Nanny state, I'll just sit and wait
Until I'm killed

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FIFY!

 

[Jedhed]

Um, thanks so much. But, we discourage self help.

 

[56/50]

Not if the chief of police assoc. has anything to say about it!! Hell they don't even want the castle doctrine bill to pass, go figure!! And you wonder why the gun owners in this state are so pessimistic?? Just take a look at the AG and her ilk!! God help us all!!!