M1911
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Don't blame Kahr. Blame the AG.
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Kahr PM9 vs CM9....what do you think??
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Even worse, they're made in Worcester and it's a pretty pointless product for most Worcester residents since Herr Gemme won't let them carry.
Also, I agree with M1911. The gun is well made and probably as accurate as a gun that size can be. However, it's can be a tough gun to shoot because of the size.
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Give North Shore Fire Arms a call. I was just there on my lunch break. The had a couple of Kahrs on the shelf. Can't remember they were PM9 or CM9
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M1911
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If you are in MA, you will have a hard time finding a CM9. You'll have an easier time finding a PM9.
One has Conventional rifling and the other has "glock" or polygonal. I have hear nightmare storys of the CW series. I went with PM9 and it is reliable and accurate. I just wish i had smaller hands hah.
The real reason People have trouble with PM9 or Kahr is cuz Kahr accually puts the magazine release in the correct spot but ppl can keep their hands off the backside of the mag release. same with ppl going "oh the pistol jammed... no if u keep you fat booger hooks off the slide stop it wont!" lmao recent events and yes he had fat hands...
BIG1PUN
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Where did you order it and how much was it if you dont mind me asking.
fencer
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I have a PM9 and am very happy with it. I carry it in an Uncle Mikes pocket holster.
It is surprisingly accurate and I have no issues with the recoil. If the weather allows, I still prefer to carry my 229 or a 1911, but if it is hot outside I can just drop the Kahr into my pocket and I am good to go. Yes, I prefer a bigger gun but the convenience factor of the Kahr is huge.
Cost is always an issue, but good gear is expensive and usually worth it. I got mine from Adam at Acme Armament. I don't remember exactly what I paid for it but know it was a fair price and a good value.
It is surprisingly accurate and I have no issues with the recoil. If the weather allows, I still prefer to carry my 229 or a 1911, but if it is hot outside I can just drop the Kahr into my pocket and I am good to go. Yes, I prefer a bigger gun but the convenience factor of the Kahr is huge.
Cost is always an issue, but good gear is expensive and usually worth it. I got mine from Adam at Acme Armament. I don't remember exactly what I paid for it but know it was a fair price and a good value.
Great write up. I was wondering this earlier today and couldn't find a picture. I think this is another case of, "you get what you pay for." Why go cheap on a CCW? That's what I never understood. When the Bodyguard's first came out no one had them in stock. I had no idea why they were selling so fast. S&W made a bad choice producing that gun. But if it works for you, then shoot it and carry it with your life. Maybe I'm just an a**hole sometimes on here.
M1911
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Yes. Check the Approved Firearms Roster: http://www.mass.gov/eopss/docs/chsb/firearms/approved-weapons-roster-4-2012.pdf
As you can see, the CM9 is not on it. Therefore, it is not approved.
You would either need to find a dealer who will sell you something not on the list or buy one used. Your chances of finding a used CM9 are slim. Just buy a PM9 and be done with it.
Even the PM9 has all the MA crap: External safety, LCI, heavier trigger. http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-PM9-w-External-Safety-and-LCI.asp
PM9 free state model: http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-PM9.asp
Uness Kahr makes a CM9 with LCI and external safety, you'll never see one for sale in the MA retail market. The PM9's reputation is so good that I think the CM9 would be a great CCW for a larger hand.
Very true
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. I don't think a .380 post has ever been on here without you crapping all over it.Very true
Don't get me wrong I would still use a .380 vs nothing, but its not my first choice.
I tried a Bodyguard .380 and it was not comfortable for me at all. I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it. I really don't want to train all the time to get a peashooter to be useful to me, so I figured I would go for something a bit bigger and with a bit more bang power.
No offense to all the BG owners but there has been more problems with those than most other guns. The laser is just a cheap cat toy embedded in a horrible little .380 handgun. The accuracy is bad enough if you can even get it to function properly.
I was just browsing FS and I saw they had a PM9 used for $499. That'll last 10 mins. at that price.
I think the whole point to the CM9 is that there is a quality compromise of sorts relating to fit and finish. How far that goes in terms of actual functuality and quality of parts within is unclear to me.
I've heard people talk about the milling to be rougher on the CM slides. The engraving is obviously not as neat and deep as on the PM.
My beef is that you can't find a CM in Massachusetts, otherwise I'd own one. As it is, I'm still figuring on saving money for the PM as I've pretty much spent my allotment this year on gun gear. I can't really justify a $750 dollar pistol when I've got a perfectly functioning PPS .40, though the PM40 I checked out today with the pinky mag felt pretty darn good in my hand and the trigger seemed decent, too.
I've heard people talk about the milling to be rougher on the CM slides. The engraving is obviously not as neat and deep as on the PM.
My beef is that you can't find a CM in Massachusetts, otherwise I'd own one. As it is, I'm still figuring on saving money for the PM as I've pretty much spent my allotment this year on gun gear. I can't really justify a $750 dollar pistol when I've got a perfectly functioning PPS .40, though the PM40 I checked out today with the pinky mag felt pretty darn good in my hand and the trigger seemed decent, too.
Yes, and I think it's crucial that people try one to make sure it would work for them. I was unsure until I tried the PPS .40, and I liked it. I have smallish hands, though, and that may actually make the gun easier for me to handle as opposed to a big ol' glock 19, or something.
I emailed Kahr earlier in the year and asked if they had plans on getting the CM9 Ma. approved. They answered, it was going to be addressed by maybe this October. Several months later I emailed the same question and the answer was that other products were ahead of the CM9 and it wouldn't be until next year most likely.
I am looking to buy a CM9 or similar 9mm for a CCW. I really like the CM9's features and don't want to spend all the cash for a PM9. I am reading good things about the CM9 but I am open to some of the negative points about it. The Glock 26 is a little fat to compare with this, so please try not to suggest one to me. I want to carry something under 16oz and this model is 2oz under that, the G26 is almost 20oz. The LC9 is awesome but the trigger is garbage and I don't feel like doing work to this handgun. Is the CM9 trigger crisp or is it gritty?
Thanks for all the input!
Thanks for all the input!
