Justice Kavanaugh

[calsdad]

Follow the money trail. The feminists you want to blame for everything ( getting that from your newer post) are just more useful idiots and political pawns.
Just like the new liberal "man".

I'm perfectly willing to treat everybody as an individual - as long as they act like it.

Feminists want to run around and say shit like ALL men are guilty, women NEVER lie, and all sorts of other non-individual specific - group inclusive arguments. The only way to fight that lunacy - as a man - is to just throw ALL women under the bus - especially because it seems that there is no equally powerful argument coming from within the ranks of women counter-balancing the lunacy coming out of the feminist left. Women as a group - also vote Democrat. They also show up at pussy hat marches by the THOUSANDS. Show me where there's an equally powerful voice of females fighting against this shit - because I don't see it.

Maybe they're useful idiots and pawns - maybe. The history of feminism goes quite a ways back and doesn't always travel on a parallel path with Frankfurt School Marxism. Past a certain point however - the useful idiots and paws argument just doesn't hold any water. People should be able to make up their own minds and decide as individuals. If they can't - well then we're right back at the collectivist argument - and therefore we're right back at collective punishment and responsibility. What I mean by that is - if thousands of women show up at pussy hat marches and women show up at Congressional hearings for the next Supreme Court justice - and make nuisances of themselves - that's because they willingly made a choice to be there.

I've made this argument before in regards to groups: In a war - you wear the uniform - then you pay the price for wearing the uniform. Soldiers don't have the luxury of having the option to decide in each case whether a person gets shot or not. You wear the uniform - you get shot. People don't get treated as individuals. Since feminists are making "woman" arguments - that means as a woman - you're wearing the uniform. Since there is no appreciable resistance to the feminist lunacy coming from within the ranks of the gender currently known as female - that means they're giving the appearance of a united front. You want to stop getting treated as a female collective? Then you need to start a civil war within the ranks. That's the lesson of history in much pretty much any war situation.

What we've got going on right now is a war - feminism against the patriarchy, communism against the Republic, blacks against whites, plus a bunch of others. That war has now reached into the very highest ranks of government. There's very few paths out of this insanity - and giving a pass to lunatic feminists simply because they may or may not be useful idiots or political pawns - is not one of them.

 

[mibro]

Besides if they pulled him from consideration anyone that thinks a different nominee would not be equally Borked has another guess coming.

This.

 

[rommel]

It's my personal opinion that the accuser in this case doesn't actually believe what might have happened to her had anything to do with K. Whether the incident even happened is questionable, but IMO she made up the connection to K. We'll never know, but it's consistent with what I think a TDS would do.

Furthermore, I think there was secondary goal; to incite others to come forward. Someone here once posted an interesting article about how riots start. The article explains that thresholds are what is needed to spark an action. Interestingly, once the first person acts, it is a catalyst for the second person to act. If the first person was eliminated from the equation then the threshold may never have been met to spark the second person to act. The theory continued all the way down to the most holy and righteous person who would be capable of doing something they could never conceive because everyone else around them was doing it.
For example, in this particular situation, the threshold for the second person to make an accusation against BK may never occurred but not for Ford coming forward. If I am correct, it is a brilliant strategy and a way to get other people to do your dirty work. Make a claim publicly then posture and then wait for someone else to make a similar claim. The original person can back down from their claim and let the new accuser pursue. In this case we got 2 new accusers. I suspect Ford will back down. Why go through any of this if her end goal was met

 

[mothybee]

Is this all they have?

A 36 year old allegation of a drunk 15 year old that her own friends refute that BK groped her?

A 34 ish year statement from a blacked out drunk freshman who had to "search her memory for 6 days" to try to recall whether it was BK and that he allegedly exposed himself?

Is this supposed to be taken seriously in comparison with the body of work that this man has generated?

No! That bastion of truth, justice and Stormy, Attorney Denutty Esq. just paid...I mean found another one. "Winter Coming"

 

[mothybee]

Just wait! Thursday is still few days away. They are learning fast. KGB perfected this process. They made your own wife, your children, your co-workers testify against you in 2 days! We are not there yet but we have mastered the media portion. KGB had angry public writing articles demanding the death sentence in the newspapers every other day......We are better, we fill internet with it every second!

New allegations surface against Brett Kavanaugh - The Boston Globe

As the White House defends Kavanaugh against the claims, presidential counselor Kellyanne Conway told CBS Monday that the accusations against Kavanaugh sound like ‘‘a vast left-wing conspiracy,’’ using rhetoric that echoed Hillary Clinton’s 1998 description of allegations that her husband, President Bill Clinton, had had affairs.
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The second claim against Kavanaugh dates to the 1983-84 academic year, which was his first at Yale University. Deborah Ramirez described the incident after being contacted by The New Yorker magazine. She recalled that Kavanaugh exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party, thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as she pushed him away.


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Don't you mean Spartacus.

 

[June4th]

I'm gonna chip in a little high school biology for the whole MGTOW discussion. If you look at the basics of X and Y chromosomes, a boy gets his his Y chromosome from his father, and X from his mother (and that X could be from any of her four paternal or maternal grandparents). There you have it, the biological reason why male offspring are considered 'heir' in the traditional sense, because the X chromosome of the family bloodline can be lost easily in as few as two generations and the Y never does.

The importance of bloodline is pronounced theatrically in the Game of Throne series, and I had such sadness seeing the heirs of the Starks got wiped out one after another. In animal kingdom, males fight and sometimes to death for the right to mate, reproduce and prolong its bloodline.

To declare Going The Other Way is waving white flag and voluntarily losing the very basic biological fight for producing heirs. Do it as you will, but not me, not my male offspring. When you give up the fight, you deserve everything that comes to the loser.

To all the good young guys on this forum: if you haven't yet, go find a good woman and have a bunch of babies.

There, my evil patriarchal post of the day.

 

[mothybee]

I suspect that she will either be a no show or call it off at last minute......the other wont testify because she was piss drunk and her story wont hold up to questioning

I heard she was spotted outside the Tomahawk truck stop in N. Platt Ne. changing a tire on her Prius. She's coming.

 

[not new guy]

In animal kingdom, males fight and sometimes to death for the right to mate, reproduce and prolong its bloodline.

I'll take it a step further and observe that reproduction is the single most important pursuit of every species in both the animal and plant kingdoms, at least as far as I'm aware. People ask about the meaning of life - if there is one I think this is it.

 

[Boris]

I'm gonna chip in a little high school biology for the whole MGTOW discussion. If you look at the basics of X and Y chromosomes, a boy gets his his Y chromosome from his father, and X from his mother (and that X could be from any of her four paternal or maternal grandparents). There you have it, the biological reason why male offspring are considered 'heir' in the traditional sense, because the X chromosome of the family bloodline can be lost easily in as few as two generations and the Y never does.

The importance of bloodline is pronounced theatrically in the Game of Throne series, and I had such sadness seeing the heirs of the Starks got wiped out one after another. In animal kingdom, males fight and sometimes to death for the right to mate, reproduce and prolong its bloodline.

To declare Going The Other Way is waving white flag and voluntarily losing the very basic biological fight for producing heirs. Do it as you will, but not me, not my male offspring. When you give up the fight, you deserve everything that comes to the loser.

To all the good young guys on this forum: if you haven't yet, go find a good woman and have a bunch of babies.

There, my evil patriarchal post of the day.

and there plenty of good women out there. The loudest voices of feminism are usually unattractive and least feminine of the kind.

 

[Glockster30]

Lol this has zero to do with Roe and everything to do with TrumpHate(tm). If trump had selected a guy that was adamantly pro-choice they'd just go off and find some other excuse to make hay out of it. Every time moonbats do this they are rarely able to cite anything that would make them think that a justice would actually vote to overturn it.

Bush put in 2 justices and didn't get this level of garbage, not even with Alito. For anyone that studies law it is completely unrealistic that the core of Roe will ever be altered or even touched in any meaningful way.

-Mike

It's hard to dismiss Roe having nothing to do with Kavanaugh's nomination. Throughout the 4 days of Kavanaugh's hearings, women protesters were constantly screaming women's rights. If it were all about TrumpHate, we should have seen the same spectacle when Trump nominated Neil Gorsuch, but it did not happen for a good reason (as noted below).

The difference between the two is that Kavanaugh was a judge in an abortion case where he didn't dispute the woman's right to have an abortion as it was all about the timing of the abortion that trapped her in a "legal limbo." In addition, he has written legal opinions and made public speeches about abortion and has made it known that he doesn't believe in it. Gorsuch lucked out because he never had an abortion case to rule on before him, in addition to not writing anything about abortion.

 

[drgrant]

It's hard to dismiss Roe having nothing to do with Kavanaugh's nomination. Throughout the 4 days of Kavanaugh's hearings, women protesters were constantly screaming women's rights. If it were all about TrumpHate, we should have seen the same spectacle when Trump nominated Neil Gorsuch, but it did not happen for a good reason (as noted below).

The difference between the two is that Kavanaugh was a judge in an abortion case where he didn't dispute the woman's right to have an abortion as it was all about the timing of the abortion that trapped her in a "legal limbo." In addition, he has written legal opinions and made public speeches about abortion and has made it known that he doesn't believe in it. Gorsuch lucked out because he never had an abortion case to rule on before him, in addition to not writing anything about abortion.

Good points, true enough... but I think a lot of it is still TrumpHate; Gorsuch also got lucky because he was a 1 - 1 replacement with Scalia. Kavanaugh is replacing Kennedy, which is possibly causing the moonbats to think that they're "losing a sometimes ally" etc.

-Mike

 

[Horrible]

Good points, true enough... but I think a lot of it is still TrumpHate; Gorsuch also got lucky because he was a 1 - 1 replacement with Scalia. Kavanaugh is replacing Kennedy, which is possibly causing the moonbats to think that they're "losing a sometimes ally" etc.

-Mike

I agree with this 100%. This will go thermo-nuclear if RBG retires or croaks and Trump gets another pick. ESPECIALLY if the Repubs hold the Senate in November!!

 

[Pete85]

I agree with this 100%. This will go thermo-nuclear if RBG retires or croaks and Trump gets another pick. ESPECIALLY if the Repubs hold the Senate in November!!

I'm hoping that it's a pretty good sign that I've been seeing a lot more signs and bumper stickers for Geoff Diehl than Elizabeth Warren over the past few weeks. It's probably just false hope though since I'm in Taunton. I'd be surprised if his popularity carried throughout the rest of the state, but I've been surprised before. At least if I'm seeing so much support for a Republican candidate in this commie state, I can hope that in other states, particularly swing states, that the Rs are getting more love this year.

Best case scenario: Kavanaugh gets confirmed, the Rs gain seats in the senate and house, and RBG retires or "retires" right after the midterms!

 

[GM-GUY]

and there plenty of good women out there. The loudest voices of feminism are usually unattractive and least feminine of the kind.

Rush Limbaugh's Rule #26 "Feminism was invented to allow unattractive women access to the mainstream of society."

Yes, agree with previous, if Trump gets another pick - go full on Thermonuclear. That judge who lost in Alabama springs to mind but he's too old for a lasting effect.

 

[Cowgirlup]

I'm perfectly willing to treat everybody as an individual - as long as they act like it.

Feminists want to run around and say shit like ALL men are guilty, women NEVER lie, and all sorts of other non-individual specific - group inclusive arguments. The only way to fight that lunacy - as a man - is to just throw ALL women under the bus - especially because it seems that there is no equally powerful argument coming from within the ranks of women counter-balancing the lunacy coming out of the feminist left. Women as a group - also vote Democrat. They also show up at pussy hat marches by the THOUSANDS. Show me where there's an equally powerful voice of females fighting against this shit - because I don't see it.


I've made this argument before in regards to groups: In a war - you wear the uniform - then you pay the price for wearing the uniform. Soldiers don't have the luxury of having the option to decide in each case whether a person gets shot or not. You wear the uniform - you get shot. People don't get treated as individuals. Since feminists are making "woman" arguments - that means as a woman - you're wearing the uniform. Since there is no appreciable resistance to the feminist lunacy coming from within the ranks of the gender currently known as female - that means they're giving the appearance of a united front. You want to stop getting treated as a female collective? Then you need to start a civil war within the ranks. That's the lesson of history in much pretty much any war situation.

What we've got going on right now is a war - feminism against the patriarchy, communism against the Republic, blacks against whites, plus a bunch of others. That war has now reached into the very highest ranks of government. There's very few paths out of this insanity - and giving a pass to lunatic feminists simply because they may or may not be useful idiots or political pawns - is not one of them.

This is the most retarded post I have read from you. By your validation of their "logic" then you also agree all men are scum.
Also, anyone who doesn't confront a liberal at every turn might as well be one. Anyone who doesn't show up at all the 2A rallies might as well be an anti. If someone isn't blowing up a clinic (you know the ones I mean) then you support what is done there.

Conservatives by and large are not confrontational psychos. Out shouting crazy people really doesn't work. There are other ways to win. The thousands of women in stupid hats were ridiculed by the rest of us. Lots of women voted Trump.

I really wonder who F'd you up for you to be like this. Nearly every thing you post has a reference to how awful women are etc.
Good Lord, take a chill pull or start drinking or something.

 

[Nick Fury]

A bunch of democrats cooked this idea up, to maximize public opinion damage and derail the process.

Exactly. They saw how effective the #MeToo movement was in taking out virtually anyone with little more than heresay no matter how much time had passed. It is the ultimate media weapon.

 

[Boris]

This is the most retarded post I have read from you. By your validation of their "logic" then you also agree all men are scum.
Also, anyone who doesn't confront a liberal at every turn might as well be one. Anyone who doesn't show up at all the 2A rallies might as well be an anti. If someone isn't blowing up a clinic (you know the ones I mean) then you support what is done there.

Conservatives by and large are not confrontational psychos. Out shouting crazy people really doesn't work. There are other ways to win. The thousands of women in stupid hats were ridiculed by the rest of us. Lots of women voted Trump.

being a "confrontational physcho" is an extreme although Americans in general are confrontational pussies, but whatever is being done, there is not much of it, because our 2a rights have been on a sliding slope as is the creep of insanity and socialism in this country. Obviously not enough being done about that.

there is a middle ground somewhere, but we are on the low side of effort at the moment.

The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men (... and Women) Do Nothing

 

[Bob P]

Guys. This is pure an simple an effort to prevent anyone filling that seat prior to the November elections. The Dems are going all in banking on winning a Senate majority in November. If they do they can take a page out of the Republicans book in 2016 and stonewall things until 2020 - doubling down that they’ll take the POTUS.

That’s what this is. Delay until November

 

[drgrant]

To declare Going The Other Way is waving white flag and voluntarily losing the very basic biological fight for producing heirs. Do it as you will, but not me, not my male offspring. When you give up the fight, you deserve everything that comes to the loser.

To all the good young guys on this forum: if you haven't yet, go find a good woman and have a bunch of babies.

MGTOW as an idea doesn't ALWAYS per se "ban" the production of offspring, for whatever it is or isn't worth.

Saying someone is MGTOW is like saying they're "libertarian". Without getting into details you won't know where he is on the scale in terms of practicing it. A lot of men DO consider it "never marrying and never having
children" or even "men completely avoiding women" but its silly to assume that this is a universal or absolute requirement of MGTOW. It's a very loose idea/concept, not a strict one.

Out shouting crazy people really doesn't work. There are other ways to win. The thousands of women in stupid hats were ridiculed by the rest of us. Lots of women voted Trump.

I really wonder who F'd you up for you to be like this. Nearly every thing you post has a reference to how awful women are etc.
Good Lord, take a chill pull or start drinking or something.

Another thing I wanted to mention elsewhere in this thread- Good women are self selecting WRT who they hang around with... ergo....

Some will opine "why don't good women shout down the feminazis? etc." Because they don't give a shit, and have better things to do than get concerned over what some crazy broad (likely outside of their circle) that they have nothing in common with, other than their gender, is doing. They go out of their way to avoid having crazy broads as friends, too. They also don't fear alienation by men just because they're female, either. They know that by not being irrational psychopaths, that if they're patient they can probably get a decent guy without too much trouble.


-Mike

 

[whatluck]

This is the most retarded post I have read from you. By your validation of their "logic" then you also agree all men are scum.
Also, anyone who doesn't confront a liberal at every turn might as well be one. Anyone who doesn't show up at all the 2A rallies might as well be an anti. If someone isn't blowing up a clinic (you know the ones I mean) then you support what is done there.

Conservatives by and large are not confrontational psychos. Out shouting crazy people really doesn't work. There are other ways to win. The thousands of women in stupid hats were ridiculed by the rest of us. Lots of women voted Trump.

I really wonder who F'd you up for you to be like this. Nearly every thing you post has a reference to how awful women are etc.
Good Lord, take a chill pull or start drinking or something.

While I agree with what you say, my interpretation of Calsdad's posts are seen through the lens of verbosity. He is taking a stand on a very polarizing issue, and presenting a point of view that very few on NES specifically and also in the USA in general have the audacity and ferocity to assume so publicly. In many ways, his (overly) verbose pontification makes far better use of the internet and NES than I could ever claim to have. These ideas need to be aired out, and challenged. Nothing excites Calsdad more than if you disagree. Such intellectual exercises help all of us explore the fringes of what we believe, and challenge us to solidify our position.

If that's not your cup of tea, you could always use his points to troll people at a house party, a favorite activity of mine. I love haloween house parties where the girls dress in hooker outfits from The Amazing as costumes, and then trying to corner them into a pro-women's rights and pro-feminist stance. BTW, all of my friends know I love to do this and actively resist, but get some drinks in them and these arguments make themselves, sort of like how good music tends to do the same.

Or you could just settle for ad hom, and make some comment about only autistic fat basement dwelling neckbearded kissless virgin wizards who spend their time shitposting on /pol/ take the MGTOW pill because it's easier to track down the bike lock attacker by watching hundreds of hours of video and writing a python facial recognition script run against a Scrapebox database of all photos of College staff than it is to get a gf.

God, verbosity is fun.

 

[PaulR]

This whole charade now is absolutely unreal.
I'm so upset with the political system I'm fit to be tied.
This man has an impeccably perfect record, and countless lifelong close friends and coworkers behind him and his life is being ruined by this complete nonsense.
I can't even bear to watch any of this complete nonsense anymore.

 

[Choctaw]

If anything happens to RBG can you imagine the responses from the next group on the short list knowing how they would be literally crucified? Obviously you don't even have to have any skeletons in your closet. The dems bring their own.

 

[cmcgraw2]

I hope K doesn't have any calendar entries for watching the Bill Cosby show, because they'll tear him apart. The MeToos are frothing now for another scalp.

 

[GM-GUY]

I response I have considered, but not used as I don't want to go to jail:

Woman: I was assaulted/attacked/raped ## years ago.
Me: Was is Kavanaugh?
Woman: No
Me: And this has what to do with him?

Because some scumbag you knew and hung out with because he was cool or some scumbag that you didn't know and should have been in jail may have done something to you in the past doesn't mean Kavanaugh who has had multiple FBI background checks and a spotless record had or has anything to do with it.


Currently heavily leaning on Ford being a no show.

 

[ChevyGuy91]

God I hope this is true.

 

[namedpipes]

Girls rock.

 

[robjax]

 

[10thSFFD]

Murkowski backs FBI probe of Kavanaugh claims - The Boston Globe



Does she also believe that we were suppose to lease Alaska from Russia for only 95 years?

Republicans need to change their name.

 

[mibro]

I really wonder who F'd you up for you to be like this. Nearly every thing you post has a reference to how awful women are etc.
Good Lord, take a chill pull or start drinking or something.

I'm pretty sure he's been married with children for decades. I'd even go out on a limb and guess Calsdad has a son...named Cal.

Could be wrong though. Maybe Cal's a cat. I dunno.

But IIRC you're also a casualty of the free-for-all gender wars.

 

[CatSnoutSoup]

Suck it super creepy porn lawyer...

Michael Avenatti Locks Twitter, Admits Kavanaugh Accuser Might Not Appear

Michael Avenatti Locks Account After Admitting Kavanaugh Accuser Might Not Come Forward.

After two days of ginning up publicity with the news he has a “100 percent credible” accuser against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, adding that she has “multiple witnesses to corroborate her story” and that she is “willing to take a polygraph,” Avenatti appeared to walk back that assurance in a Tuesday morning tweet.

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