DitchDigger
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Short answer is yes,,,,
slugs, 00, 04,,,,
if you know how to use it ur good to go
slugs, 00, 04,,,,
if you know how to use it ur good to go
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Only with a top of the line Winchester SXP Defender would he be able to pull off a procedure of that caliber, brother!Go back and look at Rittenhouse video's and replace AR with shotgun. Could he of managed the same shots with a higher recoil shotgun, pumping a shotgun even loading it on the fly like when he was running for his life. I can't say for sure as I am a big shotgun fan but I always lean towards a good battle riffle with 20+ rounds without thinking of a reload.
I can say the results of the impacts of his rounds would of been the same or worse for the 3 even the 4th ( black guy who had a vertical up round fly right past him ) but could he of held it toghether like he did.
We all think we will be standing in a perfect range position or somewhat comfortable shooting stance, again look at what was being done at a very short range to him and how he was shooting on his butt and back. 12g is a great tool just cant say in this enviroment.
Crowd dispersal I think either one is fine, fighting on your back like he was I would want a light recoil and a one shot kill firearm like he had, just my 2 cent's.
I got no issues with a 12 gauge pump for stopping a mob aim at the ground 50’ out and let that buckshot bounce it’s merry way into the mob. They’ll stop. Survivors will drag themselves away. We practiced this technique a couple of times at the Point Mugu range when I was with MCB-40 back in the ‘70’s awesome watching the Ricochet’s in the sand knowing NOTHING’s coming through that.
So This. ^Let’s be generous and assume you mean a mossberg 590A1. You can choose a known entity ammo wise and run 8+1, or run mini shells and get 16+1.
How many of those images have you seen where the mob was 20+ individuals. How comfortable are you reloading/hand loading your tube? How comfortable are you working the action when engaged up close with multiple attackers grabbing at your gun.
standard capacity box mags, semi auto, carbine length. Sidearm for backup. 12g is great for keeping in strategic locations around your home for HD. Not an ideal weapon if isolated and fighting a crowd.
Why AK over AR if 5.56? I’ve always thought 5.56 AKs were an odd niche item but am interested to hear the case for them.He’ll yea if you got enough mags, but id prefer an AK chambered in 5.56
I've got 2 Saigas in 5.56 x 45. fed from Galil mags. They are GTG...Why AK over AR if 5.56? I’ve always thought 5.56 AKs were an odd niche item but am interested to hear the case for them.
I was born and raised with 12 gauge pumps, bolt action and lever action rifles like some fools will call "Fudd guns". Believe me, they may not be cool by the standards of gun shop Rambos and Navy SEAL wannabes but the damned things are reliable, accurate and deadly. I was raised in south Alabama and my wife, Jill, was raised in the bayous of Louisiana. These are the guns we use. Now we live in Wakefield, MA. My home defense guns are two Remington 870s, modified for combat with extended mag tubes and ghost ring rifle sights. Winchester Super X 1 oz slugs and OO buck are my standard loadings. Jill uses a stainless Ruger Mini 14 ranch rifle with 6 loaded 10 round mags (M193) ball.Good afternoon, braintrust. In all of these clips and pics of both antifa and the conservatives, I see alot of ar's and ak's and some other rifles. It seems from all the pics that the environment in which conflict would occur is urban; short distances and buildings etc. Would a good old 12 ga be effective in this environment?
Let's hear it please. Pro's and con's
In my opinion? I think AK’s are virtually indestructible and I like 5.56 over 7.62Why AK over AR if 5.56? I’ve always thought 5.56 AKs were an odd niche item but am interested to hear the case for them.
An AK is on my short list of future purchases. Want to see how much I can neglect and abuse it and still function.In my opinion? I think AK’s are virtually indestructible and I like 5.56 over 7.62
We toured the now-retired USS Nautilus last year in Groton. CT. Her small arms locker held two of those 1890s vintage pump shotguns, along with two M1 carbines and three M1 Garand rifles.If it worked in WW1 it will work for you:
Pointy thing is to keep the commies at bay while you reload.
Is a 12 ga. A good option,,,, in an urban environment ,,,,that is the question
I would think that it is a better choice than a high velocity alternative
I would take a 12 over a 556 close encounter any day
I guess a charging handle doesn't scare intruders like racking a shotgun would if you go with the Biden Home Defense System, so that's a plus.
Good afternoon, braintrust. In all of these clips and pics of both antifa and the conservatives, I see alot of ar's and ak's and some other rifles. It seems from all the pics that the environment in which conflict would occur is urban; short distances and buildings etc. Would a good old 12 ga be effective in this environment?
Let's hear it please. Pro's and con's
Love the zip ties as a training aid.
Do you not have an AR?