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Trump is awesome. Don't listen to what he says find out what he does. Hint you aren't going to find out from the fake news.
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Let me ask you this, if Obama admitted doing this, would you think he should be in jail?So they IRS and the NY Revenue Dept. missed this double dipping?
He owns the bumpstock ban, it's all him. that's not fake news.Trump is awesome. Don't listen to what he says find out what he does. Hint you aren't going to find out from the fake news.
I honestly think that was him trolling swinestine, imo the bump stock BS is far more troubling, the nra conned him into that shit and he fell for it....
I removed it. It was he will trade the guns for the wall.What happened to Chevy 2 65’s post?
ETA: I was going to respond to that.
BTW thanks; finally someone was honest enough to confirm my suspicion.Bumpstocks ... don't do anything useful and everyone was surprised they were initially allowed.
So you'd rather Trump paid the money to the IRS or the NY State Revenue? There was an article in the WSJ a few months ago detailing this and it started with Daddy Trump many years ago with a wink, wink from NYC because he was building and renovating in NYC. The Trumps are/were developers and you don't get anything done in big cities unless you grease palms. The Washington Post and Bezos are never Trumpers so anything they publish regarding the President is suspect. Obama never worked a real job in his life and the Clintons are professional Pols and grifters.Let me ask you this, if Obama admitted doing this, would you think he should be in jail?
Donald Trump Used Legally Dubious Method to Avoid Paying Taxes
I find it funny the stuff that a lot of people do get worked up about and the stuff that they seem to ignore. The Clintons taking donations to their charitable foundation while in office bothered me and Trump collecting money from people trying to buy his favor bothers me too. Not more, not less.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...030f822fc35_story.html?utm_term=.daea43945abd
President Trump’s money-making power is as unprecedented as his words
Correct, Trump is as good as we will get maybe EVER.Yes he is!! At this point it does not matter to me what he says or does. The dems and the MSM are the ENEMY period.
Never heard of a bump stock until the Vegas shootings. I don't think they should be banned especially because of one horrible shooting that STILL hasn't been explained.BTW thanks; finally someone was honest enough to confirm my suspicion.
Can't really blame Trump for not getting the finer points of the bump stock if the NRA conned him into it. He's as 2A friendly as we're going to get but it's not his life's passion either. If the NRA was against it and Trump supported it then maybe I'd hold him a little more accountable but if the NRA isn't going to fight for it I'm not going to blame the President for not fighting for it. Gorsuch & Kavanaugh.
This. Guns aren't his thing personally, he doesn't get the finer points and he has said some dumb sh!t off the cuff which his advisers straightened out later. He still doesn't quite grasp how important supporting 2A is to his base.
The “guns for the wall” would make for a good discussion.I removed it. It was he will trade the guns for the wall.
Added: He is not saving us from anything.
It's not about bumpstocks, it's about the illegal ban of a device that contradicts a well established technical definition with no new legislation. Remember when Maura decided to change her interpretation of a technical definition?Bumpstocks are all around stupid anyway. We should be allowed to have them 'cause freedom. But they don't do anything useful and everyone was surprised they were initially allowed. I still don't trust the NRA as not being saboteurs, but if bumpstock ban was all that comes out of whatever the f*** Vegas was I'm OK with that(for now.)
So you'd rather Trump paid the money to the IRS or the NY State Revenue? There was an article in the WSJ a few months ago detailing this and it started with Daddy Trump many years ago with a wink, wink from NYC because he was building and renovating in NYC. The Trumps are/were developers and you don't get anything done in big cities unless you grease palms. The Washington Post and Bezos are never Trumpers so anything they publish regarding the President is suspect. Obama never worked a real job in his life and the Clintons are professional Pols and grifters.
Who nationally is better than Trump on guns? I always preach that culture matters. Why? well for example culturally a bumpstock is a machinegun, technical gobbleygook about levers and switches and the law, mean nothing in this current culture. Who is moving the culture back our way? Trump is. Note the screeching, what doth they protest, culture.It's not about bumpstocks, it's about the illegal ban of a device that contradicts a well established technical definition with no new legislation. Remember when Maura decided to change her interpretation of a technical definition?
Bumpstocks don't make guns into machine guns as defined by the law therefore it is not a surprise to a rational person. Just because something subjectively resembles something doesn't make it the same thing. Technical definitions are not open to subjective interpretation, they must be objectively evaluated. Bumpstock have been evaluated exhaustively, they aren't machine guns.
They are coming for all semi-automatic guns. The bumpstock-ban opens up yet another bureaucratic approach and should not be callously disregarded.
You can blame the NRA, but Trump signed the papers.
Cool story. I hope you feel the same way when some some person or group with a "culture" that you disagree with has power to arbitrarily warp the language of the law based on their whims. Trump will be gone in 2 or 6 years and so far the left's response has NOT been moderation so be careful what you wish for.Who nationally is better than Trump on guns? I always preach that culture matters. Why? well for example culturally a bumpstock is a machinegun, technical gobbleygook about levers and switches and the law, mean nothing in this current culture. Who is moving the culture back our way? Trump is. Note the screeching, what doth they protest, culture.
So, greasing palms to turn a huge profit is not grifting? Or you are just ok with it when people you like do it?
Obama taught college for over a decade and then worked in a law firm for eight or so years. That sounds more like working for a living than anything Trump has done in his lifetime.
As for the Washington Post, regarding this story, are you saying they are making it up? Because Trump's own people admit it is happening, they are just saying it is not illegal. Trump admin says Trump can profit from foreign hotel guests - CNNPolitics
Just as it was not illegal to donate to the Clinton Foundation.
You sound like my wife. "Trump did it tooooooo."
It's a question of degree. You're comparing arguably corrupt but nevertheless legal Gotham City business practices with selling uranium to the Russkies for a $100 million payoff and a Marxist community organizer dreaming of Cloward-Pivening the entire country.
We need a sub-forum for Liberalz With Gunz.
This. Guns aren't his thing personally, he doesn't get the finer points and he has said some dumb sh!t off the cuff which his advisers straightened out later. He still doesn't quite grasp how important supporting 2A is to his base.
I don't doubt that.
That's just it they already have and use the power to arbitrarily warp language to their whims. Funny gun people are all 'law autistic' the law says so it must be, then they admit you can get jacked up within in the law in states like MA cuz gunz. That is culture, their culture, winning. We already have the 2A it is useless because we lost the culture war. I'd rather see the culture move back in our direction than see a 1,000 pro gun laws written. The law autistics subconsciously admit culture trumps all when they realize a pro gun upper court ruling will be ignored in blue states. The culture of the classic gopcucks is surrender, classic conservatives haven't conserved a single darn thing. Trump is moving the culture needle and that is why the left(and gopcucks) hate him and I love him.Cool story. I hope you feel the same way when some some person or group with a "culture" that you disagree with has power to arbitrarily warp the language of the law based on their whims. Trump will be gone in 2 or 6 years and so far the left's response has NOT been moderation so be careful what you wish for.
Exactly. I encourage anyone to take the LEGAL loopholes that are there. Nothing wrong with that.He's not a politician, he's a Capitalist and a businessman. Tax evasion? I'm sure he has an Army of accountants and tax pro's who compile and file his tax returns. So you and the Dems want him to release his tax returns?
Obama was the TOKEN at Harvard and everywhere else. He supposedly taught Constitutional Law but didn't understand nor believe in it. He had the most defeats in the Supreme Court of any modern day President if I remember correctly. You believe being a TOKEN college Prof. like Liawatha is a REAL job? Right, just like the WSJ story detailed, TRUMP DID NOTHING ILLEGAL in his tax filings so what's your point?So, greasing palms to turn a huge profit is not grifting? Or you are just ok with it when people you like do it?
Obama taught college for over a decade and then worked in a law firm for eight or so years. That sounds more like working for a living than anything Trump has done in his lifetime.
As for the Washington Post, regarding this story, are you saying they are making it up? Because Trump's own people admit it is happening, they are just saying it is not illegal. Trump admin says Trump can profit from foreign hotel guests - CNNPolitics
Just as it was not illegal to donate to the Clinton Foundation.
So, greasing palms to turn a huge profit is not grifting? Or you are just ok with it when people you like do it?
Obama was the TOKEN at Harvard and everywhere else. He supposedly taught Constitutional Law but didn't understand nor believe in it. He had the most defeats in the Supreme Court of any modern day President if I remember correctly. You believe being a TOKEN college Prof. like Liawatha is a REAL job? Right, just like the WSJ story detailed, TRUMP DID NOTHING ILLEGAL in his tax filings so what's your point?
Have to admit, this place has got so much worse in the last five decades. It is fun when neighbor sees me loading car "what's in the ammo boxes?" I shrug, "ammo." For the most part the PD are pretty good. When I had windows replaced it was three local firefighters and one police office doing the work. Cop said do you know there is a machete in your pantry? Of course I do, why, where do you keep yours? I keep mine by the bed, he said. I told him I keep a .357 by the bed, the machete is in the pantry so I have a justification to use it. Smart he said while nodding.