Is America heading to a civil war? Many people think so. See poll.

Is America heading to a civil war?

  • Yes. In the near future.

    Votes: 106 57.3%

  • No. Not any time soon.

    Votes: 79 42.7%
  • Total voters
    185
I can see it.

The amount of police mistreatment from both sides (see YouTube), the Deep State trying for soft coup-de-tat, the GOP siding with the DEMs whenever rights are removed from the American People, the media desperate to remain relevant going for more and more sensational coverage.

It won’t start because of something we expect. It could be a traffic stop (like Watts, Rodney King) it could be an assassination (MLK Jr) or perhaps even a court case or new law.

ALL sides have primed the pump, it’s not a good place to be - and NO ONE will admit any responsibility when it starts. Not BLM with the dead cops chant, not the cops when then tune up or kill another citizen, not the politicians when they screw over yet another group of citizens in violation of their oath and not the media when they edit yet another video/audio to show what they want instead of what actually happened.
 
It could easily start with Antifa taking out the conservative Supreme Court Justices, then Congress impeaching Trump, and installing a Dem who picks four new libs to the Supreme Court. Fantasy a few years ago, but now with the Dems having control of DOJ and FBI, it’s entirely conceivable. Are we just gonna sit and pout when this happens?
 
Anitfa and Patriot Prayer were just brawling in Portland about an hour ago and the night is still young on the west coast.
 
greencobra said:
yes, for sure. but i think it'll be a civil war of race and maybe 10-15 years away. a number of black web sites are warning their followers against pushing white people until their backs are up to the wall. and i agree. i haven't seen racial tension this bad since the 60's. it was a scary time then.
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As a white person, I am tired of the fact that "white" as a prefix automatically means white supremacy. It does not. I am not guilty of any of the sins of the past, and as such I have no guilt, or remorse.

Free shit army is losing, and they are going to get violent. This is what is happening.
 
Nothing is going to happen unless you see states decide they are going to secede and start building an army of their own. Which is unlikely because even at worst for the states like California Trump will be there for another term. I do believe that the violence at political rallies will escalate until Trump is gone and or both parties become more moderate.

Honestly I'm shocked there hasn't been out right back and forth shootings at some of these rallies between the protesters.
 
I just don't see it happening. The civil war was North / South. How would a Left / Right civil war work? Drive down your street in an election year to look has what Election signs people have in their yards?

There's going to be some violence, whether is starts with a major economical reckoning from our massive debt, an assassination, or some other bullshit political move (I've seen some leftists are talking about adding seats to the SCOTUS to 11 or 15 the next time they're in power. This gem was first floated by FDR years ago, but it's gaining traction).
 
Path-Finder said:
Nothing is going to happen unless you see states decide they are going to secede......
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that's never gonna happen. talk is cheap. what are they going to do when there's no more federal money and programs? even cali can't survive a secession without trying to secure foreign money. a giant ruble loan from Russia maybe? and in return the right to base Russian troops there. what about social security payments, the country of california has a plan in place for that, right? and tax breaks for movie studios ending and the major movie producers pull out of Hollywood. and the electronics industry having huge tariffs put on products to sell in the united states, I doubt it.
 
It'll look more like Bleeding Kansas than Gettysburg. Think Bosnia or Northern Ireland.
 
greencobra said:
that's never gonna happen. talk is cheap. what are they going to do when there's no more federal money and programs? even cali can't survive a secession without trying to secure foreign money. a giant ruble loan from Russia maybe? and in return the right to base Russian troops there. what about social security payments, the country of california has a plan in place for that, right? and tax breaks for movie studios ending and the major movie producers pull out of Hollywood. and the electronics industry having huge tariffs put on products to sell in the united states, I doubt it.
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Once California secedes, it would simply create its own currency. Think you can’t do that? Look at bitcoin. Anyone can create a currency you just need to get people to trust it. California could certainly do that, there are enough libs who’d trust their beloved state.

But California leaving would wreck the dollar at the same time, as people lost faith in it.
 
EvilDragon said:
Yup, and uncle Vlad will sell his favorite Maybach to see instability in the US - he will likely finance anything needed by radical groups.
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What?! Russian collusion?!

1903Collector said:
Meh, probably not but hey, good reason to buy more ammo.
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I hope not! I've been selling surplus stuff off. $#!+ gets heavier every time I move (which is more and more frequently, of late).
 
I don't believe for a second that the dems want a civil war, for lots of reasons, but here are a couple of reasons that come to mind, off the top of my head.
1. As has been said, the other side has most of the firepower to defend with, on an immediate basis, at the very least.
2. Talk has always been inexpensive. That's why they do so much talking, whining and crying. I'm not inclined to believe that they are willing to bet there lives on their beliefs.
 
M60 said:
I don't believe for a second that the dems want a civil war, for lots of reasons, but here are a couple of reasons that come to mind, off the top of my head.
1. As has been said, the other side has most of the firepower to defend with, on an immediate basis, at the very least.
2. Talk has always been inexpensive. That's why they do so much talking, whining and crying. I'm not inclined to believe that they are willing to bet there lives on their beliefs.
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I respectfully disagree with your analysis. Although I certainly don't want to see a civil war and I am NOT advocating for one, I think an examination of the origins of our Civil War in the 1860's sheds some guidance on just how things can quickly spin out of control. I think many people make the mistake of thinking that the genesis of our civil war was the Confederacy firing on Fort Sumter. I disagree. This was simply the start of the open warfare between the Federal government and the Confederacy. Prior to Fort Sumter, we see a variety of smaller things such as John Brown's rebellion, the guerrilla warfare in some of the outlying territories such as Kansas, the move by the Confederate states to actually secede, Lincoln calling for volunteers for the US Army in case they are needed, THE DEEP DIVISIONS BETWEEN THE SIDES.

The plan by the Confederates was to simply leave the Union. They certainly didn't have the manpower, supplies or industrial might of the northern states. That did not deter them from fighting though.

I view the current stage we are in with Antifa riots and the trouble being started by the democRATS as the John Brown rebellion stage, someone trying to "light the fuse" on this powder keg we are all sitting on. At this stage, it may still be avoidable, depending on follow up events.
 
n1oty said:
I respectfully disagree with your analysis. Although I certainly don't want to see a civil war and I am NOT advocating for one, I think an examination of the origins of our Civil War in the 1860's sheds some guidance on just how things can quickly spin out of control. I think many people make the mistake of thinking that the genesis of our civil war was the Confederacy firing on Fort Sumter. I disagree. This was simply the start of the open warfare between the Federal government and the Confederacy. Prior to Fort Sumter, we see a variety of smaller things such as John Brown's rebellion, the guerrilla warfare in some of the outlying territories such as Kansas, the move by the Confederate states to actually secede, Lincoln calling for volunteers for the US Army in case they are needed, THE DEEP DIVISIONS BETWEEN THE SIDES.

The plan by the Confederates was to simply leave the Union. They certainly didn't have the manpower, supplies or industrial might of the northern states. That did not deter them from fighting though.

I view the current stage we are in with Antifa riots and the trouble being started by the democRATS as the John Brown rebellion stage, someone trying to "light the fuse" on this powder keg we are all sitting on. At this stage, it may still be avoidable, depending on follow up events.
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And let's not forget, in border states like maryland, you had cases of brothers joining opposite sides of the war. So it's not like the Civil War had clear, distinct sides.

The leftist attack on red-state music fans in Vegas looks to me like a glimpse of the civil war.
 
radioman said:
There will be riots in the cities. They’ll burn their homes and businesses to the ground
as usual and this time suburbia will not rebuild it for them. Then we’ll see what happens?
1000’s of city dwellers homeless? Then maybe we’ll see some crap go down as the city
people look to the suburbs for relief. Tic Tok baby!
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It took the stoppage of mail (welfare checks) to stop the LA riots.
 
mac1911 said:
i dont see a WAR anytime soon , problem is who is the gov/mil going to side with or will it be a gov vs citizen battle.
In any event if a "war" does happen will there be a winner.

Even if there was a team fighting for the constitutional republic and a team fighting for communism/socialism what happens one side wins over the other.
Who decides who gets what rights if the anti republic win and the republic still ends up paying for the loosers if the republic wins.
What i do see happening if it gets bad is some serious population control.
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That's what the "civil" in civil war is, sergeants fighting corporals, corporals fighting privates, privates fighting guardsmen, guardsmen fighting civilians, civilians fighting police, police worrying about their pensions. Not pretty, nothing to wish for but, if it is, it is.
 
wiryone1 said:
I agree. If anything resembling a civil war starts, it will require severe economic collapse. You need the division we see now so there is an enemy to blame and you need everyone to be really hurting economically. Right now most are living very well. Even those on the gov dole who are getting that free stuff from those that work. If all that goes away, and divided we stay, well there is your "war".
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Exactly. Whoever said people are making too much money right now is correct. No time for civil war. We have to get a spot in line for the new iPhone.
 
Lank said:
As a white person, I am tired of the fact that "white" as a prefix automatically means white supremacy. It does not. I am not guilty of any of the sins of the past, and as such I have no guilt, or remorse.

Free shit army is losing, and they are going to get violent. This is what is happening.
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Pretty credible observation.
 
i am not sure of how logistics would work. When there were clearly delineated regions warring, like North vs. South....then you can have a conventional civil war.

When you have pockets of moonbats, centered in big cities across the country....you would have odd geography.

what you might see are more instances of states breaking up...like upstate NY droppping NYC and its surroundings, and forming their own state legislatures.....

The California break up does not make sense, as it in its current form is gerrymandered to have big liberal population centers in each of the three pieces. What CA might do instead is have the liberal cities (LA, San Diego, San Franscisco) in one state fragment, and western/northern CA in the other fragment. That way you have balance of Moonbats to the west, and conservatives to the east. THAT might actually get US Senate approval.
 

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