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Improper storage examples by LEO
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Dennis in MA
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Eons ago - 25 years ago - St. Pete officer left his MP5K on the roof of his patrol car. No lie. WTF does a St. Pete ossifer need an MP5K for in the first place????? Who authorized that stupidity? Imagine him showing up to a house raid like he was Martin Riggs or something. LOL
The news had all sorts of reports that if it was returned, no questions would be asked. LOL
The news had all sorts of reports that if it was returned, no questions would be asked. LOL
nstassel
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Loaded Handgun Belonging to Westford Cop Found in Recycling Bin
CHELMSFORD -- A Waste Management worker found more than the usual bottles, cans and junk mail in the recycling bin of a resident -- who is also a Westford police officer -- during curbside pickup Wednesday morning.
apnews.com
cstockwell
NES Member
Doesn't appear he lost his LTC
Massachusetts police officer suspended after leaving gun in courthouse bathroom
A Massachusetts police officer has been suspended after leaving his gun in a courthouse bathroom, the Boston Herald reports.www.foxnews.com
A few instances in this article.
Holyoke officer reports service weapon missing from vehicle while off-duty in Chicopee
HOLYOKE— A Holyoke police officer recently reported that his police department gun was missing from his car in Chicopee.In a statement Tuesday, John Dolan, a member of Mayor Joshua Garcia’s staff, confirmed that on Nov. 19 at around 6 p.m. an off-duty...www.gazettenet.com
Officer's gun left in Wareham court bathroom recovered
A handgun that disappeared after a Plymouth police officer inadvertently left it in a courthouse bathroom has been recovered.
www.masslive.com
"Chief Michael Botieri says the gun was recovered on Wednesday afternoon, but did not say how it was tracked down. He tells The Patriot Ledger his department would not be seeking criminal charges and the case is considered closed. The gun had not been fired."
In semi related fashion, in MA - when you're driving, what does a firearm in your "direct control" mean? If you don't want it digging into your belly fat and have it in a holster secured on a pack inside a man purse on a passenger seat, is that still 'direct control'?
There's a court case on this.
I think I have it saved, but if you're alone in a car it's always under your direct control, as it could not be under anyone elses.
Mesatchornug
NES Member
Until you are asked to get out of the car for officer safety and leave your backpack unattended in the passenger seat...
Sauer Grapes
NES Member
Nope.
eboos
NES Member
Yes, this would be good info to have on hand. Especially if the PD doing the arrest had one of their own.
You had no intention of breaking the law and were ordered to do so.
eboos
NES Member
I don’t know. If it is on your person then it is under your control. If it is off your person then the best anyone can say is “maybe”. I won’t bet my freedom on “maybe”.
Off-body carry has lots of downsides. Keep it in a holster on your person. If it is not on your person, then unloaded and locked in a container, if possible out of sight.
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Officer's gun left in Wareham court bathroom recovered
A handgun that disappeared after a Plymouth police officer inadvertently left it in a courthouse bathroom has been recovered.
"Chief Michael Botieri says the gun was recovered on Wednesday afternoon, but did not say how it was tracked down. He tells The Patriot Ledger his department would not be seeking criminal charges and the case is considered closed. The gun had not been fired."
Can you imagine if you or I did that?
"safe storage" bullshit is probably tied with 209A ROs as the "#1 way an average LTC holder " gets their life f***ed up". It's rarely any of the other things discussed around here. Maybe CUI as a distant 2nd or 3rd.
support or not - it is secondary, but, a most typical situation will be simply fixing a tire on a curb, with a friendly neighborhood gestapo to stop by and peek inside and see a case.
the evil is in how the performance of those officers is assessed and what goals they are given, not in what general public may or may not support after being properly brainwashed.
usp45ct
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45 guns lost or stolen from FBI agents over a three year period: Inspector general report
FBI agents carelessly left their guns in public bathrooms, hotel rooms, and even a prison, resulting in 45 firearms being lost or stolen over a three-year period, the Justice Department’s inspector general said Tuesday.
www.washingtontimes.com
U.S. Marshals Lose "At Least" 42 Guns in Five Years - The Truth About Guns
◀Previous Post Next Post▶ “Three masked men stunned downtown Frederick the afternoon of Feb. 5 when they made off with more than $190,000 worth of watches from Colonial Jewelers in a 50-second armed heist,” fredericknewspost.com reports. “Alonzo Lee Meadows, 31, was arrested the next...
www.thetruthaboutguns.com
Fast and Forgetful: Dozens of ATF guns reportedly lost, stolen
ATF agents are losing track of their government-issued firearms at an alarming rate, according to a new report, with records showing multiple instances where officers forgot their guns after leaving them on top of their cars, in bathrooms and in glove compartments.
www.foxnews.com
not sure if you roll federal agencies into your scope
wildwest
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Not sure if already posted- missing sniper rifle:
www.masslive.com
Holyoke police sniper rifle goes missing; department conducting internal probe, notifies Western Massachusetts area departments
A state official said local police departments are responsible for obtaining standards like sniper certification.
www.masslive.com
Bearcat996
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One from MSP in RI.
www.bostonherald.com
Massachusetts state trooper was ‘freaking out’ over stolen gun but never alerted brass: records
A state trooper dishonorably discharged last month was booted off the force for failing to report his gun was stolen after a $763 dinner out with friends in Providence he attended in an unmarked cr…
www.bostonherald.com
Boghog1
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FIFY
Was it 6.5 tho?Not sure if already posted- missing sniper rifle:
Holyoke police sniper rifle goes missing; department conducting internal probe, notifies Western Massachusetts area departments
A state official said local police departments are responsible for obtaining standards like sniper certification.
VetteGirlMA
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Wasn’t there a case about 8 years ago or thereabouts where a cop came home from work and left his service handgun on the kitchen table and his kid picked up the gun and used it to commit suicide? I remember being on Facebook when it happened and questioned the PD on FB about whether the officer would be charge with violating unsafe storage laws and man a number of cops in that city jumped on me for daring to ask that question. You know ‘rules for thee but none for me’ BS we usually get from our wonderful government.
I remember reading many reports of guns stolen out of cops personal vehicles parked (gun not secured) in news stories back 8-15 yrs ago. I just can't point to any specific instance.
wildwest
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LOL- My money is on a Remington 700 chambered in 308
