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Um.... They pretty much have already taken away "OUR" firearms in MA, RI, CT, MD, CA, NY..... And if you think law abiding citizens, family men and women, etc are gonna "rise up as an army" and fight off the oppressors? Hmmm...
I don't see anyone storming the State Houses or State Police headquarters in Albany, Hartford, Sacramento, Annapolis, Boston etc, but I do see and hear a lot of screaming and hollering (often by me and others here) when yet another WTF? oppressive anti-gun moment occurs.... We scream, we holler, then we go to work the next day.
There were about twelve people (thirteen including me) at one of the Pro 2A "rallies" last year.... And I personally know many people down here who are not carrying - not because they don't want to, but because they've been told by the Hillary's (MSP, AG, Local Chiefs etc) that they are not "allowed" to have a permission slip.
De Facto confiscation in MA happens (still) daily (LTC app? Denied. LTC? approved but restricted. LTC? not even bothered to be applied for by law abiding citizens, intimidated by the thugs in power. Don't have the $ to sue over it? Then get lost and let the Chief go back to further restricting someone else too) .... Yet Beacon Hill seems pretty quiet as they're staving off the siege of protest by the armed citizens this morning...
Just sayin'
I think the vast majority, say 99.99% would just go along, not rise up and start fighting. Yes you will have pockets, Ruby Ridge, Waco, that rise up but if the Army is on their side there is a lot of firepower to bring down on a small group. And in those cases they didn't use airpower or drones that they could now. I think ISIS and the Taliban have shown that you can fight a large army but it is with guerrilla tactics, little strokes fell big oaks
If people think the majority of cops and the military would side with the insurgents, they're sorely mistaken. They've been waging war with the war on drugs and attacking the American people for decades. They would follow orders and go along with the government, guaranteed.
that's a "well, it depends" kind of thing. would some continue to follow orders? absolutely, there is no question that the majority would. however, there's a lot of guys who take the oath to defend the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic very seriously and would do so. i'm thinking it would probably be a 60-40 split in the wrong direction and that might even be a little overly optimistic.
the military is a toss-up, for all we know the commanders who are on board with killing american citizens would simply have dissenters shot.
Total confiscation won't happen, sure. But individual denials will, and do happen. Dems just pick folks off in small batches. Chief of Police in Mass is a prime example of that. We beg for a right, and it can still, yet STILL, be arbitrarily denied. And if you don't have the cash to take your CoP to court, you're SOOL.Gun confiscation in the US is not going to happen. You guys keep bringing this up over and over again. People who own guns know their rights and know the signs of their rights being taken away from them like in when that happened in Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, Red China...etc....it WON"T happen here. 300 million guns in the hands of that many Americans make us the largest standing army on the continent. Good luck taking away our firearms
I had this conversation with a college kid just the other day. Hillary supporter et all. "Guns are the problem", "gun violence" yada yada yada... I just told him that my guns have killed less people than Hillary's Benghazi screw up. And then, I told him that he could feel free to come to my house with a few friends and just try to confiscate or steal my shit, and to bring ear protection if he had an issue with loud noise. I'm sick and bloody tired of being reasonable and nice. If they want it, they can have it. Let's get this over with. I don't want to talk anymore. I don't want to bitch on the Internet anymore. I want them to put up or shut up. Let's do this.
I am comfortable with violence. I can do without, but sometimes, violence IS the answer.You're just playing into their hands because you sound like you genuinely want violence.
she would not confiscate. just so long as you only have bolt action rifles suitable for "hunting"
There won't be any confiscation ever.
You're just playing into their hands because you sound like you genuinely want violence.
I am comfortable with violence. I can do without, but sometimes, violence IS the answer.
Tell that to New Orleans gun owners.
Yes, in ordinary times, it won't happen. But a big enough event, something that gives the government excuse to declare martial law, and they might try it. Would be impossible though. They know their better route is to chip away at freedoms - registration, taxes etc. Even this is tough to do, since we know all their tricks now.
Well, you're making my point. They believe what they want to believe, regardless of what I say or do. They remind me that one drunk jackass at the bar who's looking for a fight. Appeasing won't work. Talking won't work. Ignoring him won't work. The only thing that WILL work every fuggin time is a knuckle sandwich. And I'd be fine with giving them one. Whenever, wherever.In self defense sure, but advocating for it when nothing has happened to justify it makes you look unhinged and confirms their beliefs about us.
Well, you're making my point. They believe what they want to believe, regardless of what I say or do. They remind me that one drunk jackass at the bar who's looking for a fight. Appeasing won't work. Talking won't work. Ignoring him won't work. The only thing that WILL work every fuggin time is a knuckle sandwich. And I'd be fine with giving them one. Whenever, wherever.
If any Democrat wins the presidency and holds it for 8 years, SCOTUS will go (more) anti 2 a. The current justices are old.
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Same ol rethoric. Someone turned the GOP bot modus on.So, hopefully, no matter who the republican nominee is, everyone will turn out. We cannot afford another democrat.
Same ol rethoric. Someone turned the GOP bot modus on.
It gets old, pal.
The beauty of Hillary's candidacy is that no one has any idea what she would actually do as President. This is an oft-discussed issue by political pundits.
Electing Hillary is a leap of faith, in hopes that she will do all that crap she has been saying. But given that she and Bill have raised billions from large corporations and foreign governments, I would bet that the corporate kleptocracy continues.
Anderson Cooper making a quip about how long she was in the bathroom during the debate tells everyone exactly what's in it.You have to elect it to find out what's in it?