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Banned
They are a vendor here, and really I don't care.
Problems with this vendor have been going on now for 6 months, since we did a group buy through them.
http://www.northeastshooters.com/vb...L-Ice-Arms-BCG-Buy-(CLOSED)Update-post-1-6-24
Spend some time, and go through that entire thread. The problems first started with BCG's that were NOT properly staked. Now we have BCG's that don't pass a headspace check, and firing pins that looked like they went through a ****ing meat grinder.
www.icearms.us
Check out their website where they advertise "Properly staked carriers", but in reality, they are in fact NOT properly staked. This is what a PROPERLY STAKED BCG should look like:
I am sure most of us here can say that is how our BCG's look, no matter who the vendor.
Also, on top of 2 of their BCG's failing headspace gauges, and being out of spec, and jamming rounds into my rifle, they ship their BCG's with firing pins that look like this:
You can clearly see in that photo, that the firing pin on top is all mangled to shit at the top.
How does that get missed in the QC process???
Again, if you're a member read the group buy thread. Especially the last 2 or 3 pages, which chronicles all of my problems with them. Throughout the thread, you will see plenty of people having problems with them, and needing refunds, because their product is junk.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/626464_ice_arms.html
For those of you not wanting to read that thread. here are my recent problems with them:
11/5/13
11/6/13:
11/12/13:
11/13/13:
My response to her 11/13/13:
It goes on from there.....
Problems with this vendor have been going on now for 6 months, since we did a group buy through them.
http://www.northeastshooters.com/vb...L-Ice-Arms-BCG-Buy-(CLOSED)Update-post-1-6-24
Spend some time, and go through that entire thread. The problems first started with BCG's that were NOT properly staked. Now we have BCG's that don't pass a headspace check, and firing pins that looked like they went through a ****ing meat grinder.
www.icearms.us
Check out their website where they advertise "Properly staked carriers", but in reality, they are in fact NOT properly staked. This is what a PROPERLY STAKED BCG should look like:
I am sure most of us here can say that is how our BCG's look, no matter who the vendor.
Also, on top of 2 of their BCG's failing headspace gauges, and being out of spec, and jamming rounds into my rifle, they ship their BCG's with firing pins that look like this:
You can clearly see in that photo, that the firing pin on top is all mangled to shit at the top.
How does that get missed in the QC process???
Again, if you're a member read the group buy thread. Especially the last 2 or 3 pages, which chronicles all of my problems with them. Throughout the thread, you will see plenty of people having problems with them, and needing refunds, because their product is junk.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/626464_ice_arms.html
For those of you not wanting to read that thread. here are my recent problems with them:
11/5/13
My BCG is not working. It jams the rounds into my rifle, and doesn't load them properly.
My other BCG's work 100%, so I know it's not my rifle. It's this BCG.
I have PM'd Ice Arms bout a replacement.
11/6/13:
I heard back from him. He said he got a new batch today, and will send it ASAP.
He said the staking method is still the same as before though. That they do it that way so the gas key won't crack.
So, I'll need to find a way to restake it when it comes in.
11/12/13:
I got my replacement a few days ago, but just haven't had time to check the headspace, and go and test fire the BCG, to see if this one functioned properly.
BIG TIME ICE ARMS FAIL!!!!!
I tested the headspace like I always do when I switch out my BCG's, and it failed!!!!! Just to be sure, I tested my other 3 BCG's on that same upper, and they all passed. (2 Remsport BCG's and 1 Windham Weaponry BCG) All passed with flying colors. This Ice Arms BCG failed on the .223 no go, and the 5.56 field gauge!
It's a brand new Palmetto upper, so I know it's not my upper. I also tested that same Ice Arms BCG on my other AR's, and again it failed.
I don't know who is making the parts for this company, but they are obviously retards! Now I have 2 piece of shit BCG's from Ice Arms. The first one was jamming rounds into my Palmetto upper, and this one won't even pass the go/no go tests!
I'm so damn pissed. I will be emailing them/PM'ing/texting them demanding a refund of my $110 for the group buy price. This thing is a pile of dog shit!!!!!
It's also staked like monkey shit again too!!!!! Learn how to make and properly stake a BCG! I'm sick of this shit. All of my other BCG's/parts/rifles function fine. Nope, not this shit from Ice Arms! I'll never deal with them again, and I will tell everyone I know to not deal with them either.
11/13/13:
Sir
I have spoken with Colin and apparently every part of our Quality Control procedure for our Nickel Boron BCGs has been followed. The BCG was first inspected for tool mark defects. Then it was put together by Colin. Once it was dry fired in our test rifle it was staked using our commercial staking press that we purchased from the inventor of the MOACKS staking system. Lastly we test fired the BCG at the local Manchester Range.
Go here if you wish to see how we stake our BCGs now. This picture was taken 4 days ago while being in receipt of our new EXO V2.0 carriers from Fail Zero.
http://www.icearms.us/products.cfm?show=843
And after all this, the product does not work for you. So that's fine. Please send it back and I will make sure receive a full refund. Why are we still in business if our products always fail? Because they don't. That being said, if you feel you need someone to yell at, PM me your phone number and I will call you and you can yell at me all you want. And we are sorry you are unhappy with our product.
Regards,
Julie
ICE Arms CSR
My response to her 11/13/13:
I know how to check headspace on a rifle/BCG, and this one FAILED!
Send the call tag, so I can return this pile of shit. I just want my money back, so I can buy a PROPERLY STAKED BCG FROM A REPUTABLE COMPANY, AND YOU'RE NOT IT!!!!!!!
Also, these aren't nickel boron. FAIL! And in that link to the photo, it's still not staked properly.
It goes on from there.....
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