Holyoke PD Switching From .45's Back To 9mm's

[Zappa]

Holyoke Police Department may replace aging handguns with new Glock 9mm weapons

The City Council recommends a $97,000 transfer to replace aging sidearms with modern equipment.

www.masslive.com

 

[jkelly1229]

Umm...9mm is harder to find than 45 is it not

 

[Enzo]

Isn’t this the normal course of things where numbers are revised, holsters thrown in, ammo too?
How many rounds do you think have gone through the g21s to make them oupdated?

 

[walter62]

More like the Holyoke PD are a bunch of puss*es who can't handle 45!

 

[ddeck]

So, every 7-10 years they dump their old handguns? Is that normal?

I wonder what the average round count on them is

 

[Glocklike tendencies]

“The guns we currently have are outdated. The normal average is in the seven to 10 (years) range,” said Police Chief David Pratt. “When you get to that age, you run the risk of them failing, and that’s the last thing we want.”

 

[Glocklike tendencies]

BUT LETS NOT PUT THEM ON THE AG LIST FOR REGULAR CITIZENS

So dangerous older guns are to public safety, but that is all we get. we gotta piece them together.

 

[SHOCKNAWE]

So, every 7-10 years they dump their old handguns? Is that normal?

I wonder what the average round count on them is

The article said they have been in service for 12 years, I'd guesstimate that each officer probably does a 200 round qualification every year? Maybe 100 rounds? So these guns even being 12 years old probably have a very low round count and are still great guns

 

[groundscrapers]

Umm...9mm is harder to find than 45 is it not

not at all

 

[groundscrapers]

So, every 7-10 years they dump their old handguns? Is that normal?

I wonder what the average round count on them is

most police departments get an allotment for a firearm under their uniform allowance. I think there is enough there every year to buy a new gun.

 

[jkelly1229]

not at all

Idk every time a panic hits i feel like there's 45 on the shelf for like 2 days longer than 9

I Thought popularity was 9mm was 1 and 45 was 2

Excluding 22 of course

 

[HorizontalHunter]

More like the Holyoke PD are a bunch of puss*es who can't handle 45!

All the boomers have retired.

 

[EJFudd]

Maura says that Glocks are way too dangerous. Don't the police in Holyoke pay attention to her?

 

[TJ4]

Those sick f*cks are looking to blow out some lungs.

 

[Goodandtight]

Budgets need to be justified.

 

[G4Y4HK]

Why don't cops use 5.7? Sometimes bad guys wear body armor.

 

[ThePreBanMan]

The article said they have been in service for 12 years, I'd guesstimate that each officer probably does a 200 round qualification every year? Maybe 100 rounds? So these guns even being 12 years old probably have a very low round count and are still great guns

Assuming they were maintained, sure.

 

[TJ4]

Why don't cops use 5.7? Sometimes bad guys wear body armor.

Years ago when my town went from 9s to 45 the police chief at the time told me they were making the move because they were worried about over penetration. Not sure how valid that is, but, I would think if that is a concern, then 5.7 is definitely a round that would raise that issue.

 

[SHOCKNAWE]

Assuming they were maintained, sure.

They are Glocks my man, If you figure under 3000 rounds they don't need a whole lot of tender care

 

[IPSC_DRL]

They are Glocks my man, If you figure under 3000 rounds they don't need a whole lot of tender care

Heck they'd barely need a cleaning at that point other than holster lint.

 

[appraiser]

over $1000 per gun/holster

Plus some shop is getting over 150 G21's for resale

That seems a tad steep to me.

Anyone know the "blue label" price for a Gen 5 Glock 17?

Cripes you can buy a basic G17, no night sites, no optics for about $525 retail from Bass Pro in a free state

 

[slugworth]

Umm...9mm is harder to find than 45 is it not

Not for them …

 

[groundscrapers]

Idk every time a panic hits i feel like there's 45 on the shelf for like 2 days longer than 9

I Thought popularity was 9mm was 1 and 45 was 2

Excluding 22 of course

They also don't go buy ammo from cabelas.

 

[Coda]

They should all be carrying M4's. Holyoke is a shithole.

The former Police Chief had turned things around a bit to the point I would venture into Holyoke once in awhile if I had to. Now I avoid that place like the plague.

 

[CatSnoutSoup]

Per the article...

The assessment found that the department’s lack of training and its aging equipment, including outdated handguns and ammunition shortages, posed a “risk to the community.”

Lack of training? Yet these cops can handle the Glock 9mm Lung Removers that are too salty for us common plebs?

 

[jkelly1229]

They also don't go buy ammo from cabelas.

True but i feel like last go round pds were having trouble sourcing too

 

[s&w3913]

Holyoke Police Department may replace aging handguns with new Glock 9mm weapons

The City Council recommends a $97,000 transfer to replace aging sidearms with modern equipment.

www.masslive.com

What asshats... buy M&P Support S&W or better yet get them all old TSW 5906s... haha

 

[Waher]

The article said they have been in service for 12 years, I'd guesstimate that each officer probably does a 200 round qualification every year? Maybe 100 rounds? So these guns even being 12 years old probably have a very low round count and are still great guns

The only thing with them is the Tritium sights would glow less brightly.

 

[G4Y4HK]

What asshats... buy M&P Support S&W or better yet get them all old TSW 5906s... haha

Lol. if Glocks older than 12 years are too old to be safe for cops, how come only Glocks older than 1998 are safe for MA civvies?

 

[Retired-LEO]

over $1000 per gun/holster

Plus some shop is getting over 150 G21's for resale

That seems a tad steep to me.

Anyone know the "blue label" price for a Gen 5 Glock 17?

Cripes you can buy a basic G17, no night sites, no optics for about $525 retail from Bass Pro in a free state

Departments when they buy in BULK get a much better price that the Blue Label Program.
The Blue Label Program is mainly used when the officer has to purchase his/her own firearms.