Parker Duofold
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I'm going to send my letter back with this extra value pocket guide.
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Forced surrender of bump stocks in MA EOPSS letter, per GOAL
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Seems like it. I realize it's old news that happened long before I moved here, but holy crap if I were on the anti side I would have laughed my ass off when that one went into law.
I mostly disagree. Perhaps it might benefit Bennett, but I think this is another nail in Faker's career and it puts Polito on the RHINO watch list. D's won't vote for R's no matter how 'moderate' the candidate, and Faker has pissed off an entire segment of his voter base. Scott Brown Jr.?
There are a number of states that closely follow constitutional law vs. states like CA, MA, and NY that consider the constitution a quaint and obsolete document that was penned by white supremacists.
ok, I find this thread, here is a legit question to people who are not drunk and can understand laws and things
here is a firearm with a "fixed" bumpstock, i.e. I made it 4-5 years ago and the stock that works as a bumpstock is part of teh firearm, it's not detachable.
The gun is serialized and registered, does it mean I need to surrender the f***ing gun to PD? How is this not grabbing guns?
The gun was legit made long time ago, I brought at least a couple of times to Pumpkin shoot, not this year, the year before, so it go history. Again, it's a serialized, FA10ed firearm that has to be surrendered.
you can see teh fcuking stock is welded shut, has been like that for many years. So it becomes an MG now?
And in case there are questions if this is unique, it's not. Here is another project, same deal, bump .22.
How many people have been killed ever with bump .22 ... zero.
here is a firearm with a "fixed" bumpstock, i.e. I made it 4-5 years ago and the stock that works as a bumpstock is part of teh firearm, it's not detachable.
The gun is serialized and registered, does it mean I need to surrender the f***ing gun to PD? How is this not grabbing guns?
The gun was legit made long time ago, I brought at least a couple of times to Pumpkin shoot, not this year, the year before, so it go history. Again, it's a serialized, FA10ed firearm that has to be surrendered.
you can see teh fcuking stock is welded shut, has been like that for many years. So it becomes an MG now?
And in case there are questions if this is unique, it's not. Here is another project, same deal, bump .22.
How many people have been killed ever with bump .22 ... zero.
Yep, the commies on Bacon Hill went full retard on this one, didn't they?
Are you reading my mind in the past from 7/20 now? That's impressive!
Not sure, but maybe you should have designed them with an integrated trigger crank instead.ok, I find this thread, here is a legit question to people who are not drunk and can understand laws and things
here is a firearm with a "fixed" bumpstock, i.e. I made it 4-5 years ago and the stock that works as a bumpstock is part of teh firearm, it's not detachable.
The gun is serialized and registered, does it mean I need to surrender the f***ing gun to PD? How is this not grabbing guns?
The gun was legit made long time ago, I brought at least a couple of times to Pumpkin shoot, not this year, the year before, so it go history. Again, it's a serialized, FA10ed firearm that has to be surrendered.
you can see teh fcuking stock is welded shut, has been like that for many years. So it becomes an MG now?
And in case there are questions if this is unique, it's not. Here is another project, same deal, bump .22.
How many people have been killed ever with bump .22 ... zero.
Either way, don't turn in anything.
I'm hoping there will be a stay (is that the right word) until the "taking" issue can be resolved. I would imagine this would be filed in the final day or two before the deadline. Waiting till the last minute is a good move strategically. Either way we won't here about it in advance.
FrugalFannie
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this. the bump stock taking if allowed to proceed means they can come for your "assault weapons" next.
FrugalFannie
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ship to me. I pay $10 each plus shipping.
EMTDAD
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yeah.. I posted on Sen Richard Ross's official Senator FB page asking for a statement on the letter. He said he hadn't seen it yet.. So I PDFed it, and emailed it to him. Since then, he's removed all visitor posts from his FB page, and all new post must be approved by the page manager.
So much for transparency. Even the (R)'s who appear to be on our side, screw us over.
So much for transparency. Even the (R)'s who appear to be on our side, screw us over.
Exactly - which is why I'm surprised there hasn't been a challenge filed in court yet as of the extent of my knowledge.
Does anyone know any Mass pols who are gun owners/license holders and who've gotten the letter?
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While i totally agree with this sentiment as someone else mentioned, if noone surrenders one, noone will have standing to sue.
What are your guys opinion....should i surrender one, just so we know someone will have standing to fight it when goal decides how to proceed.
We have today and tommarrow to make the decision..
There is a difference between surrendering because your a slave and surrendering because your trying to preserve a situation where we are able to sue.
Jason Flare
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You could talk to Comm2A, maybe.
EMTDAD
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I had a lengthy conversation with Richard Ross. Although he claimed to be a gun owner, I had to email him the letter.
DispositionMatrix
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Ross' claim was probably what people who are not apologists for politicians call a lie.
HorizontalHunter
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The news this morning said that "a couple" of bump stocks were turned into CPD.
Of course, they also said to make sure that you have surrendered them by the first or you were subject to a felony that included the jail term of 2 years to life.
Bob
Of course, they also said to make sure that you have surrendered them by the first or you were subject to a felony that included the jail term of 2 years to life.
Bob
rep308
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I don't understand this turn it in thing, they just have to be out of State correct? Don't you have a friend or family member in another state that will hold a package for you?
roccoracer
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Ban on bump stocks, trigger cranks takes effect Thursday
It sounds like the Chicopee police are in full support of enforcement of this unconstitutional law.
It sounds like the Chicopee police are in full support of enforcement of this unconstitutional law.
When is NRA or GOAL or GOA or NAGR or COMM2A going to file a class action suit to stop this? Just like when they tried to confiscate the large cap mags in Cal this needs a CAL to halt it. Needs to be treated as pre-ban if anything. I donate a lot of hard earned money to these groups and if they are silent here my money will be silent in my pocket. I dont need emails telling me im screwed or that I need to call my liberal whining rep who doesnt give a sh*t
A reading of the law would seem to indicate that yes, in fact, you can simply remove the offending item(s) from the state and thus no longer be in violation of the law.
The problem is that apparently the people at the EOPSS didn't read the law, or have overactive imaginations. The letter they sent to every FID, LTC, and MG license holder in the state implies that turning them in to police for destruction is the only avenue for legally disposing of evil bump stocks and trigger cranks.
"Because the law does not allow for transfer or sale of these prohibited items, if you currently possess a bump stock or trigger crank within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts you should contact your local police department or the Massachusetts State Police to get details about how to transfer custody of the prohibited item to the police for destruction."
Note the distinct absence of any mention of other options, such as bringing them out of state.
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