It's not the most dangerous job by far and the populace isn't out to get them. That's the bottom line.
lol...tell them that
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It's not the most dangerous job by far and the populace isn't out to get them. That's the bottom line.
lol...tell them that
Never said it was. Just saying the national average for workplace related deaths is a fair bit lower.It's not the most dangerous job by far and the populace isn't out to get them. That's the bottom line.
My understanding that pensions are a monthly, not a lump sum, amount.Show me one cop with a 500k pension
Quite a few of them don't retire at 55. The racket going in the police (and fire department too) is to feign an injury and go on disability for years before actually retiring.My understanding that pensions are a monthly, not a lump sum, amount.
What guaranteed monthly cash value would you consider equivalent to a $500K pension in today's environment for someone who retires at 55?
That would be ODMP, the Officer Down Memorial Page, which counts heart attacks during training, and traffic accidents that were the officer's own fault.And a very large percentage of those deaths are accidental/traffic related. One source that keeps track counts heart attacks suffered on duty.
Traffic accidents are a hazard for anyone who drives while on the clock. My brother-in-law just retired from OTR trucking after more than three million accident-free miles.Yes, but he said safest and provided that source. Traffic accidents are as much as a job hazard as people shooting at you.
You act like that's some clever counter. Doesn't change the facts.
TYKE: “It's not the most dangerous job by far and the populace isn't out to get them. That's the bottom line.”
I count 1 fact and 2 opinions. It made me laugh ...thanks
My understanding that pensions are a monthly, not a lump sum, amount.
What guaranteed monthly cash value would you consider equivalent to a $500K pension in today's environment for someone who retires at 55?
Depending on how it's invested, a $500k lump sum would probably pay $30k/year over the long term, maybe a little more? That's a lot of math and projecting, if I was good at that I'd be working for Goldman or Berkshire. Assuming you'd not want to hit principle? Just off the top of my head math, 10% return with some good and some dry years in the mix is the general average for stock indexes as I've been told, I went low with my 'estimate' earlier. If you go safer, it'd be less.
And if you read the news, it's not 'guaranteed'. There are a couple big cities up in your neck of the woods that are in deep trouble because the pensions are going into default, hell almost every large city is having issues with this. When they go into default, they stop paying. Some of those departments are SSI exempt, so when the payments stop, retirees will have no income at all. I'm all for changing retirement plans or doing away with them, but what do you do with a 70 year old guy who retired 10-20 years ago? Is he SOL because he lived up to his end of the bargain? You also have to look at who would even do the job if there wasn't a retirement benefit. Recruitment is bad enough now, I can only imagine what the 'qualified' pool would look like then.
If the populace were out to get them they'd actually make the most dangerous job list. And not mostly because they are in traffic collisions.
That's the thing though, 'the populace' isn't out to get anyone. It's a very small percentage of people who are very bad. The problem is, they don't have 'I'm a scumbag' tattooed on their forehead (ok, some do).
When you walk up on a scene, you sometimes have mere seconds to figure it out. Some cops are good at it, some aren't. Some get to walk away from mistakes, some don't. The odd thing is, some of the most charismatic people I've arrested are absolutely the worst of society.
Source by any chance?Philip Brailsford was momentarily rehired by the city of Mesa so that he could collect $30K per year in disability.
Source by any chance?
Not just that guy, what about the city government that approved this deal. Shit, If the victim was black they would be burning that city down, and rightfully so.f*** that guy
Well I just hope that there is a large civil lawsuit involved in this.
Exactly. Mentally unstable people exist, it's the governments fault for giving them that power and authority.Not just that guy, what about the city government that approved this deal.
Lol.
Qualified immunity.
I'm pretty sure every government has done that in human history.I sure as hell hope not. Otherwise the government has just legalized murder for itself, with complete immunity.
I sure as hell hope not. Otherwise the government has just legalized murder for itself, with complete immunity.