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[shock]redsoxdoc said:What does that mean for the WWB Value Packs at Wal-Mart? I assume it is made from the same Winchester
God I hope so ... I go through that shit like water.Dirigo said:i think their ammo is a different company
There's a thread on GlockTalk about this very subject. Someone on that thread claimed to know Remington was not doing too good either.PatMcD said:If they do go under, my advice: buy stock in Remington.
BigWarden said:[shock]redsoxdoc said:What does that mean for the WWB Value Packs at Wal-Mart? I assume it is made from the same Winchester
God I hope so ... I go through that shit like water.Dirigo said:i think their ammo is a different company
derek said:BigWarden said:[shock]redsoxdoc said:What does that mean for the WWB Value Packs at Wal-Mart? I assume it is made from the same Winchester
God I hope so ... I go through that shit like water.Dirigo said:i think their ammo is a different company
+1
mark056 said:US Repeating Arms that makes the rifles and shotguns under the Winchester name has no connection with ammunition production which still falls under Olin. Winchester as an intellectual property name will still be around on ammuntion.
Mark
First, you are mixing up Winchester ammo, which is a different company from US Repeating Arms (Winchester Rifles).Could it be they spent WAY too much time and money in the last few years researching, producing, and promoting several redundant, unneeded cartridges? I'm thinking about all the WSSM's. What do they REALLY do in the hunting field that a .243, .30-06, and .338 don't already do?
Dirigo said:i think their ammo is a different company
BlkHawk73 said:Winchester just hasn't kept up. They seem to have been trying to keep on going using just thier namesake on old models. Now there's nothing wrong with the 70 or 94 or their other models, they just haven't really brought anything new to the table for quite some time. Other companies consistantly introduce new models and new designs. What has W done? A few different variations of the 70 and of the 94 - oh boy. The competition for them is just too great to NOT introduce new models. Not new variations of old models but NEW designs.
I also think that with many people now wanting the look as well as the quality, they're looking elsewhere. Today, more and more gun buyers seem to want something of a more modern design or a sleeker or flashy look. The 94 and 70 just don't do this. The folks that want this nostalgia already have them so they aren't continuing to buy more. At the same time, folks are shying away from the "old fashioned" style to more modern designs. In doing so, many of these other manufacturers designs can handle the higer pressure loads that the Winchesters just can't handle. (You gonna shoot a bunch of Garret .45-70's through your 94?)Folks want this high pressure capability so they buy a different brand. Granted, Winchester was to introduce thier new semi-auto rifle this year, but even so, it's just a Browning BAR short/long Trac with a different logo. Old design with a newer look - 1/2 way there.
It's sad to see them go but, hey, just look at Ithica (x2) Dan Wesson, Colt... In a modern market with so much competition, you gotta stay current and competitive or you'll fade away. Looks like Winchester is fading.