This was my thought, considered Lee-Enfield since I would expect lots of Africa and elsewhere would have copious 303.
I don't get the people picking the 1903 when there's better options. It didn't even take center stage in World War One.
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I don't get the people picking the 1903 when there's better options. It didn't even take center stage in World War One.
I don't get it either. The 1917 shoots rings around the '03. I think people THINK the '03 must be better because it lasted longer, which makes sense... everywhere but in a government operation.
Also, people thought of the 1917 as un-American because it was a British design.
Also, people thought of the 1917 as un-American because it was a British design.
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To be fair, I never specified exactly where someone was going in the OP. If you're going to Alaska or Arizona, .30-30 or .30-06 and .45LC + ACP would be more common than .455, 9x19, .303, and the Mauser calibers. But if you're going to the Rhodesias or Kenya, you'd want to bring something in a Commonwealth caliber or a commercial Mauser caliber like .275 Rigby, aka 7x57.
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Because mag dumps on elephants are unsporting.
Winchester 1886 in 45-70.
Colt new service revolver, with the 5.5" barrel chambered in .45 colt would be the sidearm.
Of course this is assuming I'd be staying in the USA and be out in Alaska or something because that's the type of country I enjoy.
Colt new service revolver, with the 5.5" barrel chambered in .45 colt would be the sidearm.
Of course this is assuming I'd be staying in the USA and be out in Alaska or something because that's the type of country I enjoy.
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Alaska in 1920 would've been something a lot of guys at the time would be dreaming about, mostly thanks to Townsend Whelen. Whelen at the time was busy as commanding officer of the Frankford Arsenal, writing for American Rifleman, and cooking up his first cartridge, .35 Whelen. Whelen designed his namesake .35 specifically with Alaska in mind. I believe Whelen first visited AK in 1904-05.
Col. Townsend Whelen
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Nor an for ARVN ranger, 1 foot shorter and 100 lbs lighter...
although I can’t disagree with you, the Springfield is shorter and lighter. If I were to count on more ‘sniping’ style engagements, the M1917 would be my choice...preferably one that was actually cleaned from time to time.
apples to apples for accuracy though, my M1903 is on par with my M1917. It just takes a little more effort to squeeze what I need to out of the open sights.
although I’m really getting a handle on ‘cock on closing’, I think the opposite is a bit more organic.
I’m just not a revolver guy...yet. They’ve become somewhat more interesting to me as of late, but mostly because I have everything I need to reload for them and nothing to put the bullets in. I’ll beak down eventually.
in this scenario, I’d prefer something I know how to work on, or can at least ‘figure out’, and revolvers might as well be witchcraft to me.
Funny, my experience is the opposite. Give me an Enfield action over a Mauser one anytime for speed, slickness, and ease of use. Matter of fact, even though I said earlier I'd bring a Ross, that was mostly just a "dream scenario" type thought. I'd be happy with my Pattern 14.
On the revolver, well, to me, a revolver is a FAR simpler machine than an auto is. I think a lot more can go wrong on an auto. But then, I'm just spitballing; clearly an M1911 is a fine choice, though personally I'd rather wait until 1935 and pick up a BHP. I own and carry several 1911s, but I usually trust the device with the fewest moving parts!
It's kind of funny how much 'cock on closing' is growing on me. at first it felt like the first time i tried jerking off with my left hand (burnt my right arm pouring gasoline on a fire).
+1 on the trip 'back to the future' of 1935 for the BHP. Got me a real Nazi (later model w/o tangent) and it's a dream to shoot.
+1 on the trip 'back to the future' of 1935 for the BHP. Got me a real Nazi (later model w/o tangent) and it's a dream to shoot.
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The P13/P14/M1917 Enfield is a Mauser. Or a "its not a Mauser (wink)." Because RSAF Enfield never stole intellectual property rights, right? I'd link to C&Rsenal but Wikipedia cuts through the bull faster:
Pattern 1913 Enfield - Wikipedia
Technical aspects aside, the cock-on-closing aspect is what I was talking about. 90% of the act of shooting a bolt gun, to me, is the feel of the action, and my Pattern 14 feels a lot more like a SMLE than a Kar98.
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Still undecided on the sidearm. Probably Colt SAA in .45 LC. If my destination included Canada, Africa or Australia, definitely an SMLE. The .303 ammo that it fires would be the easiest to obtain.
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Somebody in an earlier post said Thompson SMG, but was that even a thing yet in 1920?
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One year off. The first known use of the Thompson in combat was probably by the IRA in the Irish War of Independence in 1921. The Thompson would've been in the developmental stages in 1920.
Thompson Submachine Gun
I believe so.
Yes, 1917.
I think the 1917 doesn't get as much hype since it's a "foreign design" and there's a degree of homerism for the "domestic" 1903.
I've come close to the 1903A3 a few times, have not acquired one.
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What? You didn't get the memo that Gary Cooper was born in backwoods, hillbilly TN? And that 1911s in .45ACP work great with blanks? Fun fact, the "1911s no worky with blanks" issue also caused Tom Selleck to use a 9x19 Colt Series 70 in Magnum P.I.
Didn't know that about Thomas Magnum. Just lost a lot of respect for him.
