Climbnsink
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Are you pro or anti this vaccine? Are you going to take the covid jab?
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Vaccine Poll
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I have yet to form an opinion. That is why I am asking questions. I think the idea of a vaccine is a good one. I think the V1.0 of this vaccine (actually, there are 2 different ones) might have some issues for some people so far, maybe more as time goes on. I'm guessing there won't be enough vaccines available for them to get to giving one to me anyhow. By the time that comes around, it will probably be onto V2.0 or V3.0 by then (April/May?). Of course, those are like starting over again on testing and trials, and issues, so who knows. By this time next year, I'd hope they have something stable and more safe. At some future point, I can imagine me taking a vaccine on this. Depending on risk versus reward at the time of availability to me, I will determine whether or not I'll take it.
For now, I don't think anybody really knows if it will or won't work, or if it will or won't have worse side effects.
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Climbnsink
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Fair enough. I don't think there will be a version 2 or 3 why would they sink the money into it if they can sell all of the version one they can make. If version 1 wrecks people like swine flu '76 vaccine did, with the internet I don't think there will be many takers on an upgraded version.
Sauer Grapes
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I know of a Pulmonary Specialties office that has offered the vax to employees, but not mandatory. The patients treated there are respiratory compromised and immune compromised, amongst other comorbidities. N95 masks are used. The influenza vaccines are mandatory for employment, but not covid. Huh.
A family member works there with direct patient contact and declined the vaccine with no repercussions.
A family member works there with direct patient contact and declined the vaccine with no repercussions.
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namedpipes
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What he said, although I do like to be terse and to the point, so I'd phrase it as "Sure I'll take the vax after enough guinea pigs that have taken it, haven't died or whatever from it."
SpaceCritter
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In case any of you were still harboring illusions this "virus response" had the slightest to do with "health" - public or otherwise - as opposed to pushing agendas:
www.takimag.com
Illustrative chart from the CDC:
CDC: White Lives Matter Less - Taki's Magazine
But the striking fact is that the CDC authorities did not bother to make sensible-sounding non-racist arguments that would covertly have a disparate impact upon whites.
Illustrative chart from the CDC:
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Don't think there's been enough testing for long term results. Don't trust these NWO types either.
I've had the virus and was pretty ill from it. I'm not getting the shot.
I've had the virus and was pretty ill from it. I'm not getting the shot.
SpaceCritter
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You'll never know if they do or don't. After all, not all of them will be as blatant as Fauci the Clown and claim soreness in the OPPOSITE shoulder.
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SpaceCritter
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I wish I could be as amused. Anthony Fauci knows much more about all that's going on with this virus than he'd ever admit. (Except perhaps under extreme duress - except Americans are much more squeamish about such things than their Chinese counterparts.)Fauci the Clown, love it!
SpaceCritter
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Honestly I'd rather he simply be arrested and sent to the Hague. Probably won't happen for at least a year, but by then maybe they'd be in a place to have him.
I served on active duty in a rapid deployment force unit. Division Ready Brigade 1. Boots on the ground anywhere in the world within 18 hours. I've been vaccinated for everything I can think of. Do you have the "plague" vaccine on your shot record? I'll take the COVID vaccine. Put me first in line. Pfizer or Moderna. Remember what Eric Schmidt said: Social media is an "amplifier for idiots." Get the vaccine. Science will win.
Amplifier for Idiots
Amplifier for Idiots
I am counting on people like you -- to ensure that I move up in line.
Sadly, most people rejecting the vaccine live in backwards states like Mississippi. But some of these people live in New England!
Science will win. Amplifier for Idiots
Moderna employees, executives and board-members have made sure that they get to skip the line, because somehow board members that do minimal real work, all from home, are 'critical'. And also their family members, because, err, uhhh....
Fair or not, I think that speaks pretty loudly in terms of how much confidence people who actually know have.
I'm not pleased to roll the dice on a vaccine that might have long term issues, but we know, by now, that COVID infection does have horrific long term side-effects. I'll happily sign up for "might" over "does".
Fair or not, I think that speaks pretty loudly in terms of how much confidence people who actually know have.
I'm not pleased to roll the dice on a vaccine that might have long term issues, but we know, by now, that COVID infection does have horrific long term side-effects. I'll happily sign up for "might" over "does".
SpaceCritter
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It will if:
SARS-CoV-2 positivity rates associated with circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels
SARS-CoV-2 positivity rates associated with circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels - PubMed
Until treatment and vaccine for coronavirus disease-2019 (COVID-19) becomes widely available, other methods of reducing infection rates should be explored. This study used a retrospective, observational analysis of deidentified tests performed at a national clinical laboratory to determine if...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
25-Hydroxyvitamin D Concentrations Are Lower in Patients with Positive PCR for SARS-CoV-2
25-Hydroxyvitamin D Concentrations Are Lower in Patients with Positive PCR for SARS-CoV-2 - PubMed
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), with a clinical outcome ranging from mild to severe, including death. To date, it is unclear why some patients develop severe symptoms. Many authors have suggested the involvement of vitamin...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Evidence that Vitamin D Supplementation Could Reduce Risk of Influenza and COVID-19 Infections and Deaths
Evidence that Vitamin D Supplementation Could Reduce Risk of Influenza and COVID-19 Infections and Deaths - PubMed
The world is in the grip of the COVID-19 pandemic. Public health measures that can reduce the risk of infection and death in addition to quarantines are desperately needed. This article reviews the roles of vitamin D in reducing the risk of respiratory tract infections, knowledge about the...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Vitamin D Deficiency and Outcome of COVID-19 Patients
Vitamin D Deficiency and Outcome of COVID-19 Patients - PubMed
Infection with the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) poses an enormous challenge to health care systems throughout the world. Without causal treatment, identification of modifiable prognostic factors may help to improve outcomes. To explore possible associations of...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Vitamin D Insufficiency is Prevalent in Severe COVID-19
Vitamin D insufficiency is prevalent in severe COVID-19
Background COVID-19 is a major pandemic that has killed more than 196,000 people. The COVID-19 disease course is strikingly divergent. Approximately 80-85% of patients experience mild or no symptoms, while the remainder develop severe disease. The mechanisms underlying these divergent outcomes...
www.medrxiv.org
The Possible Role of Vitamin D in Suppressing Cytokine Storm and Associated Mortality in COVID-19 Patients
The Possible Role of Vitamin D in Suppressing Cytokine Storm and Associated Mortality in COVID-19 Patients
Objectives To investigate the possible role of Vitamin D (Vit D) deficiency via unregulated inflammation in COVID-19 complications and associated mortality. Design The time-adjusted case mortality ratio (T-CMR) was estimated as the number of deceased patients on day N divided by the number of...
www.medrxiv.org
Potential Role of Vitamin D in the Elderly to Resist COVID-19 and to Slow Progression of Parkinson's Disease
Potential Role of Vitamin D in the Elderly to Resist COVID-19 and to Slow Progression of Parkinson's Disease - PubMed
While we are still learning more about COVID-19, caused by the novel SARS-CoV-2 virus, finding alternative and already available methods to reduce the risk and severity of the disease is paramount. One such option is vitamin D, in the form of vitamin D<sub>3</sub> (cholecalciferol)...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Vitamin D Supplementation: A Potential Approach for Coronavirus/COVID-19 Therapeutics?
Possible role of vitamin D in Covid-19 infection in pediatric population
Possible role of vitamin D in Covid-19 infection in pediatric population - PubMed
In this review, we suggest that vitamin D supplementation might play a role in the prevention and/or treatment to SARS-CoV-2 infection disease, by modulating the immune response to the virus both in the adult and pediatric population.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Does Vitamin D play a role in the management of Covid-19 in Brazil?
The role of vitamin D in the prevention of coronavirus disease 2019 infection and mortality
Associations between hypovitaminosis D and COVID-19: a narrative review
Role of vitamin D in preventing of COVID-19 infection, progression and severity
Potential role of hypovitaminosis D and Vitamin D supplementation during COVID-19 pandemic
Potential role of hypovitaminosis D and vitamin D supplementation during COVID-19 pandemic - PubMed
Vitamin D deficiency is a pandemic disorder affecting over 1 billion of subjects worldwide and displaying a broad spectrum of implications on cardiovascular and inflammatory disorders. Since the initial reports of the association between hypovitaminosis D and COVID-19, Vitamin D has been pointed...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Vitamin-D and COVID-19: do deficient risk a poorer outcome?
Commentary. Eliminating Vitamin D Deficiency During the COVID-19 Pandemic: A Call to Action
"Effect of Calcifediol Treatment and best Available Therapy versus best Available Therapy on Intensive Care Unit Admission and Mortality Among Patients Hospitalized for COVID-19: A Pilot Randomized Clinical study"
“Effect of calcifediol treatment and best available therapy versus best available therapy on intensive care unit admission and mortality among patients hospitalized for COVID-19: A pilot randomized clinical study”
The vitamin D endocrine system may have a variety of actions on cells and tissues involved in COVID-19 progression especially by decreasing the Acute …
www.sciencedirect.com
Short term, high-dose vitamin D supplementation for COVID-19 disease: a randomised, placebo-controlled, study (SHADE study)
SARS-CoV-2 positivity rates associated with circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels
SARS-CoV-2 positivity rates associated with circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels
Until treatment and vaccine for coronavirus disease-2019 (COVID-19) becomes widely available, other methods of reducing infection rates should be explored. This study used a retrospective, observational analysis of deidentified tests performed at a national clinical laboratory to determine if...
journals.plos.org
Along with comparable scientific evidence about other prophy treatments and therapeutics like zinc+ionophore(HCQ,quercetin,...), ivermectin, ...
Careful. I never wrote "special ops" or "traveling the world." Those are your words. Back in the mid-1980s, the 7th Infantry Division had a rapid deployment force mission. The 7th ID had the ability to put boots on the ground anywhere in the world within 18 hours. The 82nd Airborne had the same mission, and still has it today. Of course, 7th ID deployed to Panama and Honduras, but that's ancient history.
As for the vaccine? Well, it was developed at Pfizer's Groton, CT location. I know people involved with the vaccine. Enough said. I will take the vaccine as soon as I can. Science will win.
I guess your too young to remember this. I knew someone who got sick because of the Army's Anthrax vaccine glad to see idiots come in all shapes and sizes when it comes to untested vaccines both dataless and without long term studies. We have a need for people just like you as well!
Did the Anthrax Vaccine Make Troops Ill? - Hill & Ponton, P.A.
One former military member was able to get genetic testing to show her brain disorder was not genetic and therefore likely due to the anthrax vaccine.
www.hillandponton.com
Climbnsink
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Have you seen what passes for science these days. Doctor fired for merely questioning the science behind lockdowns, if you can't question it you aren't doing science. Probably just some country bumpkins what's going on at Harvard? Science for good or bad has become a joke. Appealing to science as an authority is a sign of midwit tyrants.
