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Updated: 6/21 - Winchendon "mini Appleseed" - Homework assignment!
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Twigg
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16 July
We had a good shoot tonight. Light wind, warm, and sunny. No bugs other than a hornet circling around Dennis. Dennis shooting the ball-and-dummy drill with his Russian .22:
Matt and Dennis putting some lead down range:
We managed two strings of the AQT. I shot a 176 and a 196. After that Dennis and Matt filled a few magazines with live and dummy rounds. We took turns watching each other for jerking the trigger. Everyone did well as they knew the dummy rounds were in there (somewhere) and that they were being watched.
Next, Dennis had a few targets consisting of scaled gray circles. He described a fourty round course of fire which we all gave a try. There was still plenty of light, but once the sun whent down behind the trees, those gray circles got mighty fuzzy!
It had been such a nice day I neglected to bring any clear eye pro and as a result shot with my sunglasses on. I really paid the price for it on those gray targets.
I also found out that at 25m my new front sight is just as wide as the simulated 100 yard AQT target. Not bad for that target, but it makes for a difficult sight picture on the simulated 300 and 400 yard targets. It looks like I need to have the gunsmith machine the front sight a little narrower.
As it was nearing 8:00 pm, we finished up with ringing the big piece of steel at 100 yards. Well, with .22s it was more like a "ting".
All in all a great evening busting caps!!!
Thanks to Matt and Dennis!
We had a good shoot tonight. Light wind, warm, and sunny. No bugs other than a hornet circling around Dennis. Dennis shooting the ball-and-dummy drill with his Russian .22:
Matt and Dennis putting some lead down range:
We managed two strings of the AQT. I shot a 176 and a 196. After that Dennis and Matt filled a few magazines with live and dummy rounds. We took turns watching each other for jerking the trigger. Everyone did well as they knew the dummy rounds were in there (somewhere) and that they were being watched.
Next, Dennis had a few targets consisting of scaled gray circles. He described a fourty round course of fire which we all gave a try. There was still plenty of light, but once the sun whent down behind the trees, those gray circles got mighty fuzzy!
It had been such a nice day I neglected to bring any clear eye pro and as a result shot with my sunglasses on. I really paid the price for it on those gray targets.
I also found out that at 25m my new front sight is just as wide as the simulated 100 yard AQT target. Not bad for that target, but it makes for a difficult sight picture on the simulated 300 and 400 yard targets. It looks like I need to have the gunsmith machine the front sight a little narrower.
As it was nearing 8:00 pm, we finished up with ringing the big piece of steel at 100 yards. Well, with .22s it was more like a "ting".
All in all a great evening busting caps!!!
Thanks to Matt and Dennis!
dwarven1
Lonely Mountain Arms
And why isn't Matt using his sling?Matt and Dennis putting some lead down range:
Twigg
NES Member
Wanna borrow my glasses o Dwarven1 ? He's using a loop sling.
I prefer the hasty sling meself.
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dwarven1
Lonely Mountain Arms
Can't see it in the photo. And I prefer the hasty, too.Wanna borrow my glasses o Dwarven1 ? He's using a loop sling.
I prefer the hasty sling meself.
+1 for the hasty. I tried the loop sling in dry fire this week and it just doesn't do it for me. It's too fiddly to get in and out of, and just isn't comfortable for me. Maybe I'll give it another chance in the future, but I'm happy with the hasty for now.
Someone demoed a quick way to go from slung carry to the hasty sling at the Harvard appleseed, but I can't for the life of me remember it. Can anyone help me out?
Someone demoed a quick way to go from slung carry to the hasty sling at the Harvard appleseed, but I can't for the life of me remember it. Can anyone help me out?
put on your glasses!
I concur. Took a little getting used to, but I like it better.
Yes, I see the loop. But even with the loop, wrap your arm and put your forward hand between the stock and sling.
Like this guy:
(BTW, I hate being the picture nazi. Makes people not want to post pictures anymore, so let's stop jumping on these good men and women)
Like this guy:
(BTW, I hate being the picture nazi. Makes people not want to post pictures anymore, so let's stop jumping on these good men and women)
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+1 We are all learning. The people in the appleseed pics are already ahead of those who don't bother attempting to become better riflemen... And when you are showing up for the first time there are plenty of guys who will show you the ropes. All they want to do is make you a better rifleman period.
loop vs. hasty
FWIW and IMO, the loop sling is great for marksmanship exercises, but it performs poorly for practical rifle work. It is slow to get into and prevents you from using the sling as a carry strap. The hasty sling aids in marksmanship, but allows you to carry the rifle at a higher level of comfort and readiness.
In their intended use (hunting or in one of Fred’s scenarios) rifles are carried much more than they are shot. It is up to us to be able to quickly dismount the rifle, sling up (if necessary), assume a supported or artificial position (based on time / distance), acquire a sight picture, and get a compressed surprised break on the trigger.
Taking the time to climb into a loop sling might give you a great hit, but it may be a hit that comes too late.
FWIW and IMO, the loop sling is great for marksmanship exercises, but it performs poorly for practical rifle work. It is slow to get into and prevents you from using the sling as a carry strap. The hasty sling aids in marksmanship, but allows you to carry the rifle at a higher level of comfort and readiness.
In their intended use (hunting or in one of Fred’s scenarios) rifles are carried much more than they are shot. It is up to us to be able to quickly dismount the rifle, sling up (if necessary), assume a supported or artificial position (based on time / distance), acquire a sight picture, and get a compressed surprised break on the trigger.
Taking the time to climb into a loop sling might give you a great hit, but it may be a hit that comes too late.
Sling dismounts
jar,
I did a quick Google search to try to find a link to help you out as pictures definitely help in this description. I did not find anything suitable right away. However, this is from the Gunsite Rifle Handbook:
To dismount your rifle from "American Carry" (the rifle is slung on your strong side shoulder with the muzzle up):
- Strong hand applies tension to the sling.
- Support hand reaches through to acquire a firing grip on the stock.
- Support hand rotates the rifle downward to point in the direction of the target.
- Strong hand acquires the pistol grip; mechanical safety is disengaged as rifle is brought to shooter's eye level.
- Keep you finger off the trigger until the sights are on the target.
To dismount your rifle from "African Carry" (the rifle is slung on your support side shoulder with the muzzle down):
- Support hand raises the rifle to point in the direction of the target.
- Strong hand acquires the pistol grip.
- Both hands rotate the rifle in a 'corkscrew' fashion; the mechanical safety is disengaged as the rifle is brought to the shooter's eye level.
- Keep you finger off the trigger until the sights are on the target.
jar,
I did a quick Google search to try to find a link to help you out as pictures definitely help in this description. I did not find anything suitable right away. However, this is from the Gunsite Rifle Handbook:
To dismount your rifle from "American Carry" (the rifle is slung on your strong side shoulder with the muzzle up):
- Strong hand applies tension to the sling.
- Support hand reaches through to acquire a firing grip on the stock.
- Support hand rotates the rifle downward to point in the direction of the target.
- Strong hand acquires the pistol grip; mechanical safety is disengaged as rifle is brought to shooter's eye level.
- Keep you finger off the trigger until the sights are on the target.
To dismount your rifle from "African Carry" (the rifle is slung on your support side shoulder with the muzzle down):
- Support hand raises the rifle to point in the direction of the target.
- Strong hand acquires the pistol grip.
- Both hands rotate the rifle in a 'corkscrew' fashion; the mechanical safety is disengaged as the rifle is brought to the shooter's eye level.
- Keep you finger off the trigger until the sights are on the target.
