biggest waste of money going.
Of all the Navy's vessels, carriers are the best use of money in the long run. Forward projection of air power is absolutely critical in 99% of the US military's conflicts.
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biggest waste of money going.
Isn't the likelihood of hitting someone with a bullet pretty low? I heard that the GAO said it was something like 250,000 rounds for each insurgent killed. If you are thinking about whether .308 is more effective than 5.56 when it hits, you gotta balance that against how many rounds you will have of each, and whether you would be better off getting more chances with 5.56. From how I have heard veterans talk about machine guns and combat, it was all about having the enemy keep their heads down, more of an offensive defense than anything else.
Both put holes in people just fine.......the point is you can carry a full combat load of 5.56 and be able to maneuver faster. Have you ever carried a full combat load in addition to wearing IBA with plate carriers? If you have........ and say you would prefer 210 rounds of 7.62 ammo over 210 rounds of 5.56 ammo and will still be able to keep up with your fire team then more power to you.
Even better is when you are a rifleman.....not attached to the mortar section at all .......and you still have 2 mortar rounds in your ruck so they can be consolidated and delivered to the 11 charlies......nothing better after walking 12 miles or more......and be slelected to gather up all the mortar rounds from your teams rucks....empy your personal shit out of your ruck and replace it with all the rounds and hump those to the guys with the tubes! The fun never stopped!Our light infantry company used the SAW in the former role you described, 1 per fire team, 2 per squad. The weapons platoons had M60's until the M240 replaced it in our unit sometime in 2001. We also had mortars attached to the headquarters platoon... not sure how that was considered "light infantry". Ah, now I remember, "light" was code for "walk everywhere". Never said anything about how much what you humped weighed. The killer was NTC... humping TOW components in the mountains while the armor and mech infantry played in the sand...
I'll do you one better,I used to have to wear a flak jacket..Ballistic plates were not in service with the Infantry when I was in.
There is a difference between putting a hole in something(5.56) and blowing it apart (.308) You get hit in the leg with 5.56 you are still walking,.308..not so much.
Of all the Navy's vessels, carriers are the best use of money in the long run. Forward projection of air power is absolutely critical is 99% of the US military's conflicts.
The only picture I've ever seen of somebody hit with a 5.56 was in the leg at short range, and the dude wasn't going to be walking anywhere.
The only picture I've ever seen of somebody hit with a 5.56 was in the leg at short range, and the dude wasn't going to be walking anywhere.
forward projection of air power is not something dench needs or wants
I remember a Delta operator in the book (it's not in the movie) Blackhawk Down complaining how the Somalis could take several 5.56 rounds from an M4 or M249 and keep fighting (they were all high and didn't feel it). One old man took 3 bursts from an M249 and got up and stumbled away.
Whereas one round from an M14 and they would stay down (one of the Delta carried an M14).
So maybe now that our enemy is typically unarmored terrorists, the 5.56 round isn't the best choice?
Assistant M60 gunner - possibly the worst job in the military. Brutal combat load and draw a lot of fire.....
Looked up the wiki and a 7.62 round is very roughly 2.5 times the weight of a 5.56 round.
So, AK chambered in 5.56.
....the point is you can carry a full combat load of 5.56 and be able to maneuver faster. Have you ever carried a full combat load in addition to wearing IBA with plate carriers? If you have........ and say you would prefer 210 rounds of 7.62 ammo over 210 rounds of 5.56 ammo and will still be able to keep up with your fire team then more power to you.
Our light infantry company used the ... not sure how that was considered "light infantry". Ah, now I remember, "light" was code for "walk everywhere". ...
So, how much exactly IS a "full combat load" in 7.62x39 vs. 5.56 vs. 7.62x51?
Standard loadout for an U.S Army Infantry Soldier 6 Mags + 1 in Rifle = 210 Rounds
After a quick Google search I found that a typical loadout for a grunt in Vietnam with an M14 was 4 mags + 1 in Rifle = 100 Rounds ...
... You could always improve on things but its not always going to happen.
I actually posted the weights of 5.56 and 7.62 x 51....... 6 pounds vs 18 pounds......and hanging off the front of molle gear that weight is significant.......I don't know the weight if commie ammo. But at 7.62x 39 I'd say in between 6 and 18 pounds.Flipside to that is an AR in a .30 caliber.
So, how much weight exactly IS a "full combat load" in 7.62x39 vs. 5.56 vs. 7.62x51?
My guess would be "light" means anything without wheels or an engine.
I actually posted the weights of 5.56 and 7.62 x 51....... 6 pounds vs 18 pounds......and hanging off the front of molle gear that weight is significant.......I don't know the weight if commie ammo. But at 7.62x 39 I'd say in between 6 and 18 pounds.
I remember a Delta operator in the book (it's not in the movie) Blackhawk Down complaining how the Somalis could take several 5.56 rounds from an M4 or M249 and keep fighting (they were all high and didn't feel it). One old man took 3 bursts from an M249 and got up and stumbled away.
Whereas one round from an M14 and they would stay down (one of the Delta carried an M14).
So maybe now that our enemy is typically unarmored terrorists, the 5.56 round isn't the best choice?
Is it wrong that I chuckled?
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This dude got hit with 2 quick bursts from a 249......he didn't stumble away!
Ditto here. Plus add unreliable Katusa's and I get to carry the t&e too.<----- 60 gunner
WISH we had one of those little 5.56 MGs......
This dude got hit with 2 quick bursts from a 249......he didn't stumble away!
I remember a Delta operator in the book (it's not in the movie) Blackhawk Down complaining how the Somalis could take several 5.56 rounds from an M4 or M249 and keep fighting (they were all high and didn't feel it). One old man took 3 bursts from an M249 and got up and stumbled away.
Whereas one round from an M14 and they would stay down (one of the Delta carried an M14).
So maybe now that our enemy is typically unarmored terrorists, the 5.56 round isn't the best choice?