Two hunters 'become first Americans to die from ZOMBIE DEER disease' after eating infected venison

My understanding is that it has always been an issue in cattle and as a result there are very strict guidelines in the U.S. for spotting cattle that may have a similar prion disease (BSE, which is bovine spongiform encephalopathy, or mad cow disease, and the related human variant that is called Variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease). True CJD is yet another prion variant disease in humans but does not come from the mad cow variant. All are nasty neurological diseases that are fatal and cooking does not do anything b/c they are protein diseases and not viral or bacterial.
 
LittleCalm said:
My understanding is that it has always been an issue in cattle and as a result there are very strict guidelines in the U.S. for spotting cattle that may have a similar prion disease (BSE, which is bovine spongiform encephalopathy, or mad cow disease, and the related human variant that is called Variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease). True CJD is yet another prion variant disease in humans but does not come from the mad cow variant. All are nasty neurological diseases that are fatal and cooking does not do anything b/c they are protein diseases and not viral or bacterial.
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Correct. CWD is basically like Mad Cow disease for deer. Same type of disease (prions). Unlike bacteria and viruses, it can't be neutralized by cooking the infected meat, it's part of the makeup of the actual protein. In addition it's highly infectious among it's host population, so something so simple as touching infected urine, feces, even shed antler velvet, is enough to pass the infection along.
 
amm5061 said:
Correct. CWD is basically like Mad Cow disease for deer and Kuru for people. Same type of disease (prions). Unlike bacteria and viruses, it can't be neutralized by cooking the infected meat, it's part of the makeup of the actual protein. In addition it's highly infectious among it's host population, so something so simple as touching infected urine, feces, even shed antler velvet, is enough to pass the infection along.
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FIFY.
 
“Notably, prion agents are recognized to be one of the most resistant pathogens to either physical or chemical inactivation [12]. For example, they are not inactivated by standard sterilization techniques, such as 20 min of autoclaving at 121 °C or ultraviolet/γ-ray irradiation [13,14]. The inactivation of prions requires more severe conditions, for example 18 min of autoclaving at 134 °C [15] or sodium hydroxide and sodium dodecyl sulfate (SDS) treatment—a procedure that is generally considered to be impractical”

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Inactivation of Prions by Low-Temperature Sterilization Technology Using Vaporized Gas Derived from a Hydrogen Peroxide–Peracetic Acid Mixture

Prion diseases are proteopathies that cause neurodegenerative disorders in humans and animals. Prion is highly resistant to both chemical and physical inactivation. Here, vaporized gas derived from a hydrogen peroxide–peracetic acid mixture (VHPPA) ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
 
1. Sounds like they ate a deer that CLERARLY had CWD, not just MAYBE had CWD.

2. The infographic on teh "how to tell". . . . what does a depressed deer look like? [rofl]

3. This was never a surprise. My aunt's dad died of mad cow from beef he ate in England back in WWII. Prions be prions. It took 50 years for it to finally take George. I always liked George. But eating prion-infected meat CAN lead to getting prions in your body.

IIRC, they aren't sure how it spreads in deer. Hell, they can't really explain how deer have Covid either, so there's that. (Not just them having Covid, but how rapidly it spread.)
 
Reptile said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

Two hunters 'become first Americans to die from ZOMBIE DEER disease'

A study in the journal Neurology suggested that two Wyoming hunters died from chronic wasting disease (CWD), a 100% fatal illness that mainly affects deer and has never been seen in humans.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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Sunmary:

Study proves nothing.
Lots of "maybe" and "we believe" but nothing. Also 2022, but this is shared in 2024? ... why? ... could it be because we are close to hunting season in Wyoming?

More junk.

Read this:
www.usatoday.com

In 2005, about 200 people ate ‘zombie’ deer meat. Here’s what happened

A fire company in New York state unknowingly served deer that tested positive for CWD. Health officials have been following them ever since.
www.usatoday.com
 
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Broc said:
How closely related?
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According to the article, it works the same way (prions) and it has the same effect. In the Fore tribe, the cause is generally cannibalism of the recently deceased. The brains seem to have the greatest concentration of prions and this seems to be why it hits them within a couple of years.
 

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