That's "Trooper Dumbass" to you, sonny.Never said I was going to inform Dumbass.
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That's "Trooper Dumbass" to you, sonny.Never said I was going to inform Dumbass.
It would be far safer to mail it to yourself in WI, and then back to MA when you are done though...
A professional acquaintance of mine got tripped up in NY carrying a handgun (9mm semi) in his vehicle when he went to visit his son at college. I am not sure of all the details (he kept it pretty quiet) but I know he was pulled over on an interstate and somehow acknowledged (or stated) that he had a weapon in his vehicle (I think he thought, or the officer was, for some reason, going to search the vehicle). Ended up being arrested, spent thousands on lawyers, etc., had to go to court - it went on for quite some time and there was the possiblity that he would have to serve some time (he didn't end up having to). He also had issues with his LTC in MA as a result (I think it may have been revoked but I am not 100% sure). So it does happen, maybe one in a million, you just have to use your best judgement and determine whether the risk is worth it.
Never said I was going to inform Dumbass. Was carrying it in case I got jammed up for whatever reason. Better to be informed than talking out your ass While pulled over on the side of the road.
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yep, me also, but heading south west. like you said, just don't be stupid.Lived in MN, WI and IL for total of 12 years. Have made the NH or ME to the Midwest round trip dozens of times. Often with lots of guns and ammunition. Just drive across 90 and don’t be an ass.
The hardest part is surviving the deathly bordom of driving across northern Ohio and Indiana. Flat, busy, crappy food. Boring.
Fuel up before you enter NY, do the speed limit, and don’t stop until you hit PA. You’ll be fine
This should end wellJust put a trump sticker on your truck (it should already have one) and don’t pull over for nobody!
Works for me!This should end well
Go with the flow; not too fast, not too slow. Drive like you conceal carry, as unobtrusively as possible, and admitting to nothing.That is/was a common profile for drug runners driving up from FL. Not saying it is right but they justified pulling cars over that were going the speed limit as likely criminal.
Those NYS Gas Station Police are the worst, man.
I'd think the glovebox would violate FOPA.i drove over whole east coast, for work and for pleasure may be 50 times, no less. somehow i was never searched, never pulled out of the car, never harassed. got my share of tickets, of course, mostly in CT.
like others stated - keep gun off your person, locked in the case, ideally in the locked glovebox. make sure all car papers - registration, etc. - are NOT in the glovebox, so you never have to open it or touch it.
if cop asks - say it was broken long ago, and you never had time to fix it.
you have to commit something extraordinary for them to get a crowbar and start breaking it apart. or search your car, anyway.
That is/was a common profile for drug runners driving up from FL. Not saying it is right but they justified pulling cars over that were going the speed limit as likely criminal.it's laughable to me that driving the speed limit can in any way be deemed suspicious
Theoretically legal for transport within Mass,what i said was to put a gun into its box. put a box into a glove compartment. lock glove compartment.
Cops totally fall for the Bill Clinton "it depends on what the meaning of 'is' is" routine.on a 'do you have guns with you' question you just answer the truth - i do not have any gun on my person, officer.
I'm going to need a citation for this because I don't see that anywhere in FOPA.It doesn't give you permission to have in your possession items that are prohibited in the state that you're passing through.
Prime example - you cannot possess hollowpoint ammunition in NJ except under very limited circumstances. So, FOPA doesn't let you take hollowpoint ammo through New Jersey. More common example - "high capacity" magazines - they're restricted in a lot of states now, including NJ. For you Ma**h***s, it doesn't matter if it's "pre-ban" or not, it's not permitted in NJ, and FOPA won't let you carry it through.
Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
I'm going to need a citation for this because I don't see that anywhere in FOPA.
I'm going to need a citation for this because I don't see that anywhere in FOPA.
18 U.S. Code § 926A - Interstate transportation of firearms
www.law.cornell.edu
That is what I did with my "arsenal" when I moved to AL. I had to get our truck and horse trailer to AL so I put it to good use. I used a bunch of lockable rubbermade trunks for pistols, shorter long arms and ammo. The long arms were in silicone socks. The handguns were in their cases. I had to load the ammo box by box into the containers. It was too heavy to lift or push otherwise. The longer long guns had individual trigger locks, in silicone socks, in tall wardrobe boxes. So, everything was locked and ammo was in separate containers from firearms. The horse trailer was locked too. I had a lot of other stuff that I did not want to ship with the mover. I piled all that on top of the arsenal. I took the 84 to 81 route and all was good. I guess I had a lot of weight. The tranny was getting hot through the hills of VA. Fortunately it started raining when I hit TN and that brought temps back to normal. For a little while I dreaded breaking down with the arsenal. It took a long time to unload but that gave me a chance to inventory the collection.I may or may not have once driven from Indiana to Massachusetts with what NY would consider to be a veritable arsenal. Fuel up before you enter NY, do the speed limit, and don’t stop until you hit PA. You’ll be fine
But should I do 67mph or 68mph to avoid suspicion?My personal opinion is that if you're running under FOPA with your shit locked up/encased (including supposed "prohibited" items, etc. ) and out of view/touch, then it's not anything worth getting bent about.
That is f-ing wild.He's correct. A bill was introduced in Congress in Feb, 2020 by Mo Brooks to amend FOPA to cover magazines and ammunition. FOPA currently does not.
From Gun Owners of America:
New Bill to Legalize the Interstate Transportation of Magazines & Ammunition
Someone who transits ammunition through New York while traveling from New Hampshire to Virginia risks arrest due to state law criminalizing the possession of otherwise lawfully-owned magazines or ammunition.www.ammoland.com
This. Plug scranton into your GPS as a waypoint. And stay off any of the shit ways near NYC/NJ.I think all the cases I have read about involve either NY City (which is a jurisdiction unto itself) or the three major airports controlled by the Port Authority of NY and NJ, who have their own police force and tend not to recognize FOPA. If you're driving straight west on the NY Thruway from Massachusetts then you won't be coming near any of that.
If you really want to minimize your exposure, use I-84 -> I-81 -> I-80. According to Google Maps that routing (assuming Boston to Milwaukee) only adds 10 miles and 20 minutes.