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I have walked the same walk. We all have tough choices along the way. Nobody I know believes LaPierre is a hero but we all believe in the sum of all parts. Please have that conversation with GOAL and lets talk again after that conversation takes place.
We are all green members are we not? The fact is not singular but plural in nature that over 95% of gun owners do squat for the cause.
Hopefully you understood my 95% statement was a sad commentary as to how little gun owners do to support 2A rights and not singularly directed at you.
Yeah, do tell is right. Where is the proof after a decade that the new GOAL is more effective than the old GOAL was? And that's all I care about: GOAL's effectiveness in holding the line and preventing more loss of 2A rights in Massachusetts.
And if you don't grasp this...."Houston, we have a problem"
I looked at it differently. It looked aimed at me.
My apologies offered then, I thought it was a stand alone sentence.
If the NRA is that effin blind not to see and hear the people they need support from on the issue whose fault is it?
And, NRA membership is falling yet GOA membership can't break 2 million. Millions of gun owners continuing to sit on their arses. If the 2A goes up in smoke, and its a very real possibility, gun owners must accept some of the blame for it happening.
I got nothing.
They are of course but they remain the best game in town, Bruen proved that. Wayne is pushing 75 so he ain't there forever.
Agreed. But, at the end of the day the NRA must survive.
Same here...
... no pro-2A organization is left out. But like I've said before, I donate monthly 100% on a merit basis. You were successful against the anti-2A pols this past month... you get my money. You did nothing... you get nothing this month. I wish more folks would consider that merit-based approach.Could have been an intelligence glitch. This happened almost half a century ago. The only social media I had access to was a cheap 23 channel AM-only CB radio. Didn't get my Ham ticket until about a decade later. Maybe NRA underestimated the resolve of People vs. Handguns. The local R&G clubs didn’t have any counterprotesters visible at the shopping malls while the signatures were being collected. At least I didn't see any. Bottom line: that damned question should never have made it to the ballot, period!
Don't forget the NRA was a gun safety/gun training organization for many years. They didn't even form political action groups, lobbying groups and the like until 1975 into 1976. Even then it took some time to build up those groups.
That is a significant overreach. The factual cases you keep citing are where the NRA may or may not have participated, but I haven't seen much (any?) presented where they were the ones who "carried the day".
Really? You think the NY sportsman article you posted says they "carried" it?
So I confused you with someone else. You think that's a meaningful contribution to the discussion? More to the point, you think that level of deflection will make people forget that you're ignoring the question at the end of that quote?
One would think that in your 70 years you would have learned that assuming disagreement equals ignorance is simply indicative that you're not really making as pithy an observation as you think you are. And, again more to the point, do you think that insult as opposed to argument will convince anyone of anything other that your obvious prejudices?
Nothing. If the dude is not removed is because certain people don't want him removed. All the top layers are rotten. So the new guy won't find anything because he won't look.
If I never made the post then one would wonder how I would have a meaningful discussion about it.....one would think.....
To quote the other question asked in that post:If I never made the post then one would wonder how I would have a meaningful discussion about it.....one would think.....
Holy crap all you are doing is just bloviating like someone on bad mushrooms. One I never made the post you fantasized about while on your bad trip and two for the 10th time read the facts of the Bruen case and who funded it and whose lawyers were involved in it. And to be clear your incoherent ramblings aren't impressing me.
Agreed. And very likely his eventual replacement is already known, who will just continue on with business as usual.
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its not just the looting. You should try and have a candid conversation sometime with members like I have had on multiple occasions. Its all manipulation and coercion behind the scenes.
no, he has his hooks into enough people by putting spouses, children, etc... into roles that would go away if they turned on him. Entire families income are under his control and if they speak against him it goes bye bye.
Yes, GOAL is fighting a rear-guard action. The best they can do is to slow things down and sometimes point out patently obvious lunacy. No matter how good GOAL is, there is little they can do when the majority of the legislators are anti-gun.
