The Grace Curley Show: 2A Tuesday with Toby Leary

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2A Talk with Toby Leary - 7.19.21 - Hour 3

Some of the highlights include:

• I live in Massachusetts. Can I get me some mail order ammo?
• I have a couple of girls in their 20's and my son just turned 20. Should I have them take a gun safety course before they apply in town for their LTC?
• I'm a retired police officer, 20 years. Do you have any kind of law enforcement come into your classes or delve into the subject of new gun owners who are carrying first time in their vehicles and if they have an encounter with a police officer, on a say routine traffic stop, how to tactically act?
• I have a Medical Marijuana card, and I was wondering if I can get my LTC with that?

 

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huh? same as glocks and CZs cannot be possessed in this state in any way?

MGL Chapter 140: Licenses​

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Section 121: Firearms sales; definitions; antique firearms; application of law; exceptions​

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'Assault weapon'', shall have the same meaning as a semiautomatic assault weapon as defined in the federal Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, 18 U.S.C. section 921(a)(30) as appearing in such section on September 13, 1994, ...​

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Section 131M: Assault weapon or large capacity feeding device not lawfully possessed on September 13, 1994; sale, transfer or possession; punishment​

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No person shall ... possess an assault weapon ... that was not otherwise lawfully possessed on September 13, 1994. ...​

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18 U.S.C. section 921(a) (30) as of September 13, 1994:​

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(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of —​

(i) a folding or telescoping stock;​

(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;​

(iii) a bayonet mount;​

(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and​

(v) a grenade launcher;​

(C) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of —​

(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;​

(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender,flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;​

(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;​

(iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and​

(v) a semiautomatic version of an au tomatic firearm; and​

(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of —​

(i) a folding or telescoping stock;​

(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;​

(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and​

(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.​

 

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2A Tuesday On A Monday With Toby Leary – 07.26.21 – Hour 3​

(Posted before listening...)

 

[Canndo]

Great message on the HC “chump line” today. “I hear there’s a vaccine for Trump derangement syndrome. You inject it into your gas tank and it costs $4.00 a gallon”

 

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2A Tuesday On A Monday With Toby Leary – 07.26.21 – Hour 3​

Questions include:

• Should I notify my insurance company that I own guns?
• (Grace's fiance Will): When will ammo prices decrease to pre-pandemic prices?
• What do you think about .22LR for self-defense?
• Does my Bodyguard .380 suck or not?
• Biden's 120-round 9mm pistol.
• How do I get non-resident Mass. LTC?
• What do you think about 9mm carbines?
• Is it legal for an unlicensed family member to live in an LTC-holder's house?
• Can I put modern ammo in a 1898 Mod. 94 .30-30?
• What do you think of red dot sights on carry pistols?
• What's the effective range of a Seecamp .32?
• If I had a juvenile CWOF w/ community service, can I get an LTC?
• After I had an out of state DUI, I was found Unsuitable in Mass. Can I get my license back?

 

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2A Tuesday On Monday – 8.2.21 – Hour 3​

Questions include:

• Do I have to lock up my ammunition?
• Which handguns are better for home defense - revolvers, autoloaders, or whatever I'm most proficient with?
• How will the ammo shortage's impact on law enforcement play out?
• Can I build an AR pistol out of spare parts without a fixed mag?
• I lost the key to my trigger lock; how can I get it off of my registered gun?
• How does my neighbor's 9mm Glock compare to my .45 Glock?
• What does Teh Navy Seals transitioning from Sig P226 to 9mm mean?
• "Ed" calls in to announce that anyone knows he is One Scary Guy with his 1911.
• AR-15 optics: low powered scope or red dot?
• What about High Points?
• What about revolvers for carry?

 

[SKumar]

I've been listening to this regularly lately. And while I understand Grace isn't a gun-nut like the rest of us, I do commend her on
-TRYING
-putting on a platform to promote 2A and for listeners to get questions answered

Big fan. Grace has been doing awesome. Spits some hard hitting truths that not even Howie points out.

 

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Grace In Action.

 

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2A Tuesday on a Monday - 08.09.21 - Hour 3​

Grace is joined by Toby from Cape Gun Works to take all your gun questions.

(The meat starts at 1m16s if you want to skip the opening bumper).

Questions include:

• How about slain Chicago LEO Ella French?
• "Bruce, who has shot with Jim Ballou", asks "how do you like me hunting with my BLR Mod. 81 .358 Winchester w/ 300gr bullets?".
• How come my friend in New Hampshire says that Massachusetts residents cannot own Glocks?
• What swag does Cape Gun Works sell?
• Can you transfer a gun to me out of state via an FFL like a Cabela's?
• Can I buy a Glock 19 out of state and bring it to Massachusetts?
• What caliber is good for home defense that doesn't risk over-penetration?
• What low-recoil gun is good for a beginner?
• Why are roving bands of women coming in to Cape Gun Works?

 

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2A Tuesday On A Wednesday – 08.18.21 – Hour 3​

In this hour, Toby Leary from Cape Gun Works joins Grace and all her listeners to answer pertinent gun questions.

The hour bumps out of the intro around 0m35s.

However, Grace just summarizes the topic and solicits calls;
then squeezes in some Biden*/Afghanistan material.
(Waiting for the queue to fill up?)

As long as you know the drill,
the real gun material starts at 4m55s.

Questions include:

• .45ACP - how many can you have in a gun in Massachusetts?
• What does "Mass compliant" mean?
• Are you amazed at the billions of dollars worth of weapons falling into the Taliban's hands?
• Can I use .308 in the Sig 716i 7.62mm rifle I'm picking up today?
• If I get an aftermarket trigger installed in my CCW, can that be used against me in a court of law?
• OBTW, notice how Trump can't use Twitter but the Taliban can?
• I ran out in my bathrobe with my .32 in the middle of the night to find out that the flashlights inside my detached garage were the police that my crazy neighbor had called to investigate the radio I had left turned on, and when I let the police inside the house to root around in my locked safe and fondle my 9mm, they spotted the half-drunk glass of scotch on my nightstand, and said they would prosecute me unless I sucked for a multi-year LTC suspension; what would you have done differently?
• Does humidity require guns to be cleaned more often?
• I live in NH and have a Mass non-res LTC; can I carry a CCW in Mass that is not a Mass-certified gun?
• Does Constitutional Carry allow Maine, Vermont, and New Hampshire residents to travel to each others' states?
• What do you think about the Sig-Sauer Model 360 9mm pistol?
• My course told me to put "For All Legal Purposes" on my LTC application; what was the additional language Toby recommended a few weeks ago?
• Have you heard about Drummond v. Robinson Township, and do you deal with a lot of that in Massachusetts?
• A friend of mine went to a gun club in Everett or whatever, and they asked him if he had a permit to smoke marijuana?
• Am I crazy to bring a handgun when I drive from Maine to Wyoming, Idaho, and Montana next month?

 

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Down Range With Toby Leary – 8.20.21 – Hour 4​

Toby from Cape Gun Works takes over for Howie this hour to answer all your gun questions.
(He also covers some politics, foreign affairs, ...).

The show starts at 1m20s.

Issues include:

• Thomas Latanowich was convicted on gun charges for murdering Yarmouth PD Sgt. Sean Gannon's murderer, yet he had previously been charged with 30 gun crimes and still got paroled.
• Gun laws only affect law-abiding gun owners - not criminals.
• Q: Are AR-10's finicky to feed?
• Enter the Top Shot Invitational shoot on 9/11.
• Afghan ex-pat texts that US did not fight in vain in Afghanistan.
• I can't find 8mm ammo for my G41W.
• Q: What do you think of ultrasonic cleaners for guns?
• Q: How can my out-of-state brother give me one of his guns?
• Q: How does the Ruger Mini 14 compare to the AR-15?
• Q: I have a Mass LTC; what states in New England can I carry?
• Q: I have a Mass LTC; can I open carry?
• Q: Remember when some California politician wanted to publish all gun owners' addresses?
• Q: Can I just throw my pistol in my luggage when I fly from Florida to my licensed daughter in Oregon and give it to her even though I'm not licensed in Oregon?
• Q: Should I use brass ammo instead of steel cased in my gun?
• Q: What's the difference between a magazine and a clip?

 

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2A Tuesday With Toby Leary From Cape Gun – 08.24.21 – Hour 3​

Grace talks about a strange incident in California involving 300 ballots in a car.

The show starts at 0m35s,
but the actual gun content starts at 5m10s.

• How do I put my firearms on my C&R?
• If I have a Mass LTC, can I drive to Maine?
• Is any Mass law going to be changed real soon to let me get an LTC despite my 40-yo felony?
• When a Marijuana Dispensary scans your driver's license, how does that affect your license to carry?
• How hard is it in Massachusetts to get guns that are now prohibited from a family member that passes away?
• Since a 12ga shotgun will penetrate walls, should I use a .410 shotgun for home defense?
• When I transfer my pistol to a relative in Hawaii, does the Hawaiian FFL do everything, or do I have to register the transfer with an eFA-10?
• As a life-long Massachusetts resident, will my NH DUI prevent me from getting a Mass LTC?
• As a 79-yo retired MP, what are my odds of getting an LTC?
• I'm in NH; can my Mass relative just give my 14-yo a shotgun?
• Do I have to do anything to register the really old O/U shotgun that my Mass neighbor gave me years ago?
• Can police chiefs require vaccinations for an LTC?

 

[Canndo]

Did anyone hear Taylor yesterday, when he was covering for Howie, the last hour? He was getting lambasted for his opinion on the Ashley Babbit tragedy. Basically siding with the cop and saying she deserved it.
I sent him a text.
His final words were, “see you Monday, if I still have a job”.
I don’t think Howie’s gonna be happy with him.

 

[AHM]

Did anyone hear Taylor yesterday, when he was covering for Howie, the last hour? He was getting lambasted for his opinion on the Ashley Babbit tragedy. Basically siding with the cop and saying she deserved it.
I sent him a text.
His final words were, “see you Monday, if I still have a job”.
I don’t think Howie’s gonna be happy with him.

Caught up just before going out to dinner tonight.

If one managed to listen all the way through,
it shaped up as one of those segments where
the talent has no idea how much they don't know.

No clue about actual laws (or department policy) on use of force.
(Taylor would have assumed the fetal position back at the studio
if a caller had merely asked, "if the guy was placed in such mortal danger
by someone sticking their face through a hole in a barred door,
why didn't he just pistol whip her face?"
That's assuming he didn't just re-holster the piece he was finger-<bleep>ing
and give her a shot of pepper spray).

Undying faith in the fidelity of investigation of police by police.
Can you imagine Taylor being traffic-stopped by the Medford Lens Licker?

 

[Canndo]

Howie should make him take a class or 2 with Toby. If he’s still employed, that is.

 

[Fixxah]

Isn't Toby a member here?

 

[Canndo]

Isn't Toby a member here?

Now that you mention it, I kind of remember reading that somewhere. But I’m not sure.

 

[Canndo]

Yup

 

[Canndo]

@Cape Gun Works
Not to put you on the spot, but did you hear Taylor’s segment? Opinion? Thanks

 

[AHM]

Howie should make him take a class or 2 with Toby.

I seem to recall that Taylor has.

At least one of Taylor and Grace is on one or another of those cusps of inhibition
that I remember myself so clearly:
wanting to take the class,
and then wanting to get licensed,
and then wanting to get guns,
but not being certified,
and then not applying for the LTC,
and then not going out and buying guns.

But maybe at least one has guns by now.

Hell; it'd be prudent for them to pretend on-air not to have gotten guns,
but be armed to the teeth in real life.

I'm frankly glad it slips my mind.


Also, I'd never expect a commercial range instructor
to sheep-dip a student in Massprudence, RKBA conservatism,
or even self-defense law
while teaching them how to shoot safely and well.

Plenty of students need all their neurons to be safe,
and aim, and all that.

And some students dread the thought
of a range session turning into a political indoctrination session.

(I bet some other students you don't want to get started on politics,
because they start jumping up and down the way Arlo
got assigned to the Group W bench; screaming "Kill! Kill!").

If he’s still employed, that is.

Bah; while Howie will have read the texts (and any EMail whinging),
I don't imagine any dire consequences.

(The third fundamental fly in Taylor's ointment on Friday
is that he seems to be putting way too much credence
in the "outcome" of the "investigation" into Ashli Babbitt's death.
Because it was asking the Deep State to be honest.

If and when evidence comes out that it was a sham,
he'll smacking himself in the forehead so hard that
V8 Corp will call him up and ask him to do vegetable juice commercials).


It might be kewl if the program spent less time on Tapioca Joe's
latest sound bites and more time on legal minutiae.
But those topics may not be ready for Drive Time Radio.

So, short of something like Officer Mark coming on the show on Monday
to explain stuff like the Ladder of Force that legit cops have to deal with every day,
I'm not expecting a lot of clarity on the program about what makes
for a justified shoot. I have none of that training,
but at least I know It's a Thing.

 

[Canndo]

Well, all I can say is, if Howie is is promoting a pro 2A brand, everyone, including Taylor, should either promote that view, with knowledge, or shut the hell up and not even approach the subject. Taylor sounded foolish and should get a good dressing down from Howie. He’s got no on air chops as it is.

Also, have you ever watched him eating a salad during commercial breaks? It’s disturbing.

 

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Also, have you ever watched him eating a salad during commercial breaks? It’s disturbing.

Maybe oncet. But I'd have had NES in the other browser window.
So maybe I dodged a bullet by listening to the show audio in one window
while I was reading and writing in the other.

 

[AHM]

His final words were, “see you Monday, if I still have a job”.
I don’t think Howie’s gonna be happy with him.

Taylor's punishment is two-fold:

1. Howie's taking today and tomorrow as vacation, and Taylor's filling in.
2. Long-time caller Russ just referred to Taylor as "Tyler". A faint smile played across Taylor's visage...

 

[Canndo]

That SOB glossed over the whole subject. He didn’t respond to my texts. I didn’t even make “chopped chumps”. I can’t let this go. I’ll wait til Howie gets back.

 

[Marty McFly]

@Cape Gun Works
Not to put you on the spot, but did you hear Taylor’s segment? Opinion? Thanks

They are just on here to sell guns. Not conversation.

 

[SKumar]

Caught up just before going out to dinner tonight.

If one managed to listen all the way through,
it shaped up as one of those segments where
the talent has no idea how much they don't know.

No clue about actual laws (or department policy) on use of force.
(Taylor would have assumed the fetal position back at the studio
if a caller had merely asked, "if the guy was placed in such mortal danger
by someone sticking their face through a hole in a barred door,
why didn't he just pistol whip her face?"
That's assuming he didn't just re-holster the piece he was finger-<bleep>ing
and give her a shot of pepper spray).

Undying faith in the fidelity of investigation of police by police.
Can you imagine Taylor being traffic-stopped by the Medford Lens Licker?

LOL I remember that douche. Then he got caught drinking and carrying off duty on dashcam.

 

[SKumar]

And yeah I was shocked at Taylor saying the officer did nothing wrong. I don't think Taylor took into account of the police 3 ft directly behind her, which proved to Byrd that she wasn't an immediate deadly threat, thus negating the reason for drawing his weapon in the first place. Taylor is just saying "in his perceived threat with people barging in, he wasn't wrong in what he did". I understand his perspective, but I believe he doesn't have the full facts.

 

[AHM]

... I didn’t even make “chopped chumps”. ...

Spoiler: Trigger warning

Meanwhile I realized a few weeks ago that if you listen to the show
via one of the direct feed live streams (not a stream of a broadcast affiliate),
every day you can hear a garbled snippet from one of my old phone calls
about [Obama] bowing to foreign potentates
like one of those glass birds that "drinks" from a glass of ice water.

 

[Canndo]

Anyone listening right now? I left a text for Taylor to bring up his opinion on the Ashley Babbit case with Toby. I’m trying to call, but driving right now and can’t get through. Somebody else call in, if you have time.

 

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2A Tuesday – 08.31.21 – Hour 3​

@Canndo Trigger Warning: the show was hosted by Taylor.

The show starts at 0m35s.

• Robberies up in Hyannis; some using Replicas.
• If a mere person provided all those guns to the Taliban, the sentence would be 12,000,000 years in prison.
• What replacement carry gun do you recommend for a woman who wants to trade in her old High Standard that has a tricky trigger?
• In New Hampshire, does an heir have to undergo a background check before inheriting a gun?
• What direction is the ATF going with pistol braces?
• What about Ghost Pistol Braces?
• How do you feel about the new Federal Punch .22LR for self-defense?
• When do I own the guns that the police department transferred to me from someone who lost their LTC/FID due to an "incident"?
• Does this interfere with The Seven Guns Per Year?
• Does a Mass resident moving to New Hampshire have to turn in their LTC or do anything special with their registered firearms?
• We can carry all the way up to the Canadian border through Maine, right?
• Is there a push to get more states on board with the Constitutional Carry?
• How did we get to the point where each state has its own gun control laws?
• How can I get the Target and Hunting restrictions lifted from my LTC from my old liberal town.
• I have houses in Brockton, West Virginia, and Alabama. How can I get the Target and Hunting restrictions lifted from my Mass non-resident LTC when it is renewed?
• What kind of concealed carry license would I need to cross the country?
• Would additional licenses be needed to transport a suppressor?