Unfortunately, the "smack upside the head" is more likely to open people eyes that the laws need to be changed to prohibit cartoons of Mohammad, instead of standing up against violent thugs.
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Terrorist Attack in Paris
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Unfortunately, the "smack upside the head" is more likely to open people eyes that the laws need to be changed to prohibit cartoons of Mohammad, instead of standing up against violent thugs.
Varmint
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you are so babaric for even thinking that, we are only simple folk, we shouldnt be able to defend lives. Only the police can do that...........
In all seriousness, do French police carry guns?
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When I was in France, at least in the airport the police had carbines, like MP5 or something.
France is actually more strict on Muslims than the US is, restricting head gear etc.
Did I hear correctly the shooters got away? How is that even possible?
If you're going to take the risk of pissing off a bunch of armed animals, it would probably be a good idea to be armed yourself.
I'm not going to call someones wife at the bar fat unless I'm prepared to defend myself.
Because of the danger of ever increasing escalation with one. If they believe that they can silence any opposition through threats and use of force they will only increase the number of things they threaten over. If people don't flash money around I don't see a huge risk of escalation there.
This is exactly what I was thinking. If you want to go around pissing on everyone, well... fine. But you might want to have armed guards at the doors. Two well armed guards at their building might have put an end to this. It's not like the guys were subtle.
Well, it is pretty hard to argue that their security was sufficient.
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Yes they do.
Get in to the building, move fast, and be out in a couple minutes before any effective police response. Drive away in one car, then switch cars are a few blocks.
CNN.com reposting the satirical image this French magazine posted, wishing the leader of ISIS good health. My respects to CNN for refusing to be cowed by an attack on its press cousins
I fault the magazine for assuming that Gov't would provide their security, and not being prepared for the barbaric response to Free Speech. It's not like the magazine was calling out a Kardashian for a wardrobe malfunction. The credits page of the web site or printed magazine should have had a group picture of the staff, each armed in some way.
Yeah, about 49%
namedpipes
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Couldn't they just not buy the magazine?
Varmint
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It just sounds like they went searching for specific victims by name - it can't have been that fast - police response must have been slow and undermanned/outgunned.
Win
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This was my thought as well. It's crazy how much some Muslims hate the funnies.
Wonder how many Muslims are in the police department?
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If you emptied more than one mag, and took down more than one assailant, that's exactly how that would play out. Eye witness 911 calls would get so confused the cops would just show up and shoot anyone with a gun anyway.
If I were to witness an armed purse-snatch in Boston, I'd call 911 but would not engage. Don't like how I'd handle that, then get off your ass and get ALL the gun laws in MA taken off the books. You live in MA; therefor, so you sleep in the bed [STRIKE=undefined]you make[/STRIKE] others have made for you...
I just heard someone on CNN say that they need to examine the shot groups - see if these were well trained military or paramilitary terrorists, or people who just went to the shooting range often.
Oh facepalm.
ETA: Anyone else notice GUnman #2, Passenger, Lost his shoe?
Oh facepalm.
ETA: Anyone else notice GUnman #2, Passenger, Lost his shoe?
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Does France use EEO?
I hope Seth Rogen and James Franco do first.
xtry51
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Articles said they did have police security and they were shot.
Pretty hard to stop a couple dudes with rifles (who know how to use them) from killing people in a known, unhardened facility like an office building, regardless of the level of security. Bad guys are at least gonna get the first shots off and drop some people.
This is one of those work environments where you wouldn't want to be relying on other people to save you.
Palladin
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more importantly, aren't worried about using them, have no concern over life, etc. These guys aren't someone a negotiator is going to talk out of a building.
xtry51
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Exactly. Most of these people are willing to die for what they believe in. That's a hard thing to stop without taking damage.
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