We’re moving into territory whereby we will find a way no matter what. Our ingenuity is just burgeoning. That’s being said I bought a box of the 118gr making 3 total boxes of the stuff. The other 2 are the 90gr. I love the way these rounds work in gel tests. I’m sure hand shaping an fmj will yield fine results too.I have a hard time with those at $1.38 prime. I know they’re better than a ball round, but I think in lieu of an actual HP, I’ll just use ball? No? Taofledermaus has a nice new video on segmented rounds as well. Band saw and some ball rounds. Good to go!