puška m70
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That's not too impressive. Maybe just another way to market factory seconds in a way that their potential lower quality/issues wouldn't hit WWB's or other Winchester sub brand's reputation.
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That's not too impressive. Maybe just another way to market factory seconds in a way that their potential lower quality/issues wouldn't hit WWB's or other Winchester sub brand's reputation.
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puška m70
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Lol. "WRB"![[rofl]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/013.gif "ROFL [rofl]")
Maybe they should have a potential health warning on them like Marlboro Reds "May pose risk to unintended targets beyond 10 yds / 9.14 m"
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I'm going to have to test your hypothesis. I picked up a case of that because it was a 500 count. I've been using it for informal shoots at my club. Haven't done any slow fire with it. I've been pretty happy with it, but never considered that my performance was affected by the ammo. What you're telling me is that I'm actually much better than my scores would indicate? Awesome!
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<Insert "Bat Signal [classic]: @Broccoli Iglesias" here>.
Your prudence regarding recoil chain reaction ignition
in your lever-action Glock's tube magazine is admirable,
but I think you'll still return home safe at the end of the day.
"Sweepins".
![[rofl2]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/035.gif "ROFL2 [rofl2]")
Do they call @EddieCoyle "Crimp"?
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I always thought the sweepings went into the tax free sea smokes we get on the boats
Good man
Doug Koenig. Now he’s with team Rugah! No more S&W
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The Pro's are sharp dressers though, aren't they?(said in your best Trump voice)
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@Daddy Mac, here's hoping a new ammo choice sends you to the Big Leagues! Keep us posted on your testing of the Red Box Winny, would you?
I shot another box of it tonight and it did slightly better. All rounds landing within the 4-ring and the group shrunk down to +/- 4 inches with an oddball flyer every couple of sets.
May have been one particularly bad box, but still not stellar. I have a case-and-a-half left and will report back in a while after trying with a couple of other platforms...
~Enbloc
I shot another box of it tonight and it did slightly better. All rounds landing within the 4-ring and the group shrunk down to +/- 4 inches with an oddball flyer every couple of sets.
May have been one particularly bad box, but still not stellar. I have a case-and-a-half left and will report back in a while after trying with a couple of other platforms...
~Enbloc
puška m70
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I wonder how it'd do at 25 or 50 yds out of a PCC shooting for groups
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Not sure. A longer barrel may stabilize the projo and improve accuracy... But I just don't know. Only PCC I have is a Keltec Subbie and it's nothing to call a tack-driver...
puška m70
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PSA: We should be treating the TSUSA exclusive Republic Range and Training 7.62x39 and other sketchy/no name/generic 7.62x39 as if it was corrosive. Any relabled Russian/former SSR made steel case or knockoffs are suspect at this point. Lots of reports on various AK forums in the last few days that some of new Russian/former SSR/etc ammo popping up in the last few months is corrosive. Just make sure to pour some water down the bbl, gas tube and on other action parts like the bolt and carrier.
Some brands/importers are saying ammo from the same plant/production lot IS CORROSIVE while another importer/brand of the same exact ammo is saying it is non corrosive.
I also noticed rust on my gas tube/piston/gas block after shooting a couple different brands that included Republic, which were all labeled as non corrosive.
@paulleve @SKumar @enbloc @andrew1220 @not new guy @76Too a heads up since you guys mentioned looking into or buying this stuff
Some brands/importers are saying ammo from the same plant/production lot IS CORROSIVE while another importer/brand of the same exact ammo is saying it is non corrosive.
I also noticed rust on my gas tube/piston/gas block after shooting a couple different brands that included Republic, which were all labeled as non corrosive.
@paulleve @SKumar @enbloc @andrew1220 @not new guy @76Too a heads up since you guys mentioned looking into or buying this stuff
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Interesting ill keep an eye out. But I will say I ran a corrosive test myself on a round from the first case of republic I got and it wasn't corrosive. Ill have to try another from a different case. I did notice its odd all the lot numbers were removed from any Republic I received.
TL- Zsr x51
TR- Chinese surplus x39(control corrosive)
BL- Republic x39
BR- LC m855 (control non corrosive)
Only one with corrosion was the chinese, even a month later looking at them now no signs of corrosion on the others. But ymmv definitely worth checking after shooting.
Close up of the chinese
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The Republic stuff
Thanks. This is what the Republic stuff from this latest order looks like, for whatever it's worth:
From the TSUSA page re: the headstamp:
Thanks. This is what the Republic stuff from this latest order looks like, for whatever it's worth:
From the TSUSA page re: the headstamp:
puška m70
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Thanks for testing this
btnh6668
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The rounds look identical to any barnual lacquer sealed ammo minus the head stamp which is believed to be marked for Belarus not from Belarus.
puška m70
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I just shot some of this stuff. Going to let it sit in the rifle a day or two and I will report results. This is stuff just received from TS usa a day or so ago.
Barnaul is usually good to go but who knows
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Got the Norma SS109 a few days ago. Looks good, will have to see how it shoots.
Comes in a nice ammo can (heavy rubber seal).
Sealed latch.
Well padded with cardboard.
Comes 50 to a box on 10 round stripper clips.
Only issue is they are plastic stripper clips with no spoon. Fortunately I’ve never been good at using a stripper clip with a spoon so I already have a Maglula StripLULA stripper clip loader and it works just fine with the plastic clips.
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I've not noticed any rust/pitting from the Republic yet. But, who knows? I'm a "cleaner"... I always clean my firearms after a range trip. Keeps me proficient in their disassembly/re-assembly.
I'll post back if I find anything notable...
I'll post back if I find anything notable...
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Just a note on corrosive ammo, ANY Corrosive ammo:
I use a 10:1 mix of water/Ballistol in a squeeze bottle with nozzle. It will separate a little so shake before using.
Squirt down the muzzle, squirt down the breech, squirt in the action at the range and then a cleanup at home.
I started using this when shooting corro WWII ammo through 1903's and M1's. No damage.
I use a 10:1 mix of water/Ballistol in a squeeze bottle with nozzle. It will separate a little so shake before using.
Squirt down the muzzle, squirt down the breech, squirt in the action at the range and then a cleanup at home.
I started using this when shooting corro WWII ammo through 1903's and M1's. No damage.
I used to just carry a bottle of water to the range when I shot my AK74's.
When done shooting flush the shit out of them at the range with the water and then flush it again with a 50/50 mix of Ballistol and Marvel Mystery Oil and run a patch through the barrel.
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Yep. Lots of folks say Windex w/ ammonia but the ammonia does nothing to the salts. It's the mostly water in the Windex that helps...
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Pretty good deal considering things as they are. No green tip? I like the color coding, it lets me know which ones I shouldn't be shooting at steel targets.
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TulAmmo... and more wolf
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Yup. Just use water.
I spent many years shooting SMLEs at a time when milsurp .303 was plentiful, cheap, and corrosive. The Brits actually made a special funnel just for pouring water down the bore, though I never picked one up. I always just brought a squeeze bottle to the range, like an old-skool cycling bottle, and just flushed out the bore after shooting.
I spent many years shooting SMLEs at a time when milsurp .303 was plentiful, cheap, and corrosive. The Brits actually made a special funnel just for pouring water down the bore, though I never picked one up. I always just brought a squeeze bottle to the range, like an old-skool cycling bottle, and just flushed out the bore after shooting.
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