Something that's important to note is probably put thought into is the bag geared for access to shelter or not. Because in NH/ME/VT winters or hell, even FL in the summer without shelter what's inside that pack will change or u ded.
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**made a note to move poncho to an easily accessible position**Best way to learn how to pack. Go for a 3 day hike, all the sh*t you didn't need and weight you down, take it off.
Then go for another 3 day hike, if possible on a rainy day.
Rainy because you will learn to appreciate having an extra pair of dry socks and a dry t-shirt. You can also test how waterproof all your "waterproof" gear really is and how much it s*cks to set up a tent fast, with no overhead cover, without getting the interior wet.
One major design flaw of backpacks that come with a cover (and people think that is enough), is the part that touches your back. There is no cover for that and the water running down your back will soak it and soak what is in the bag. You won't learn that unless you take it out when it is wet.
Ooh yeah. Those pack rain covers just help in quick and light rain storms.Best way to learn how to pack. Go for a 3 day hike, all the sh*t you didn't need and weight you down, take it off.
Then go for another 3 day hike, if possible on a rainy day.
Rainy because you will learn to appreciate having an extra pair of dry socks and a dry t-shirt. You can also test how waterproof all your "waterproof" gear really is and how much it s*cks to set up a tent fast, with no overhead cover, without getting the interior wet.
One major design flaw of backpacks that come with a cover (and people think that is enough), is the part that touches your back. There is no cover for that and the water running down your back will soak it and soak what is in the bag. You won't learn that unless you take it out when it is wet.
**made a note to move poncho tp an easily accessible position**
I have a GHB that is probably too heavy and some stuff in a cargo box in the SUV. I figure I can customize what I need depending on circumstances and ditch the rest if needed. My back is older and more tired now.
Bladders take up space and if they break you are f*cked. 2 or 3 small plastic bottles (not the fancy hard plastic sh*t people use, but regular supermarket bottle) are better and can be crushed when empty to save space. Soda bottles are great for this (dump the soda).I definitely have to get some spare socks and a hoody or something in my GHB. I went non-tacticool and I feel like I'm just lacking space and/or exterior attachment points. Can't imagine it'll be better with water bladder full.
It’s a necessity to have spare dry socks and foot powder if you’re moving on foot or staying outside for more than a day. More so if it’s winter months.I definitely have to get some spare socks
I think for most people it’s just a good excuse to buy some cool gear and toys to learn about and play with. Hobby-ish but also serves a purpose.Are BOBs still a thing? I've never saw the point in one. A GHB does makes sense to me though; both myself and GF have one in each of our vehicles.
That's where I keep mine...I thought the purpose of a bug out plan / bag / whatever you want to call it is to be prepared for a worse case scenario. Otherwise, why the need for a bag? - put your stuff in the car and drive.
Bet you didnt shite for 3 days after.I found the survival cookies with a lot of calories are a good option and don't get you thirsty. I ate those cookies as a test for 3 days (only those cookies).
Can I interest you in a used Army Blanket?They said you could outfit an army with the shit on the side of the road of an armies first mile in pre ww1
(Why is it always the chicks that need to sluice off?)Mine and my wife's BOBs have everything we need, and each weigh nearly 80lbs. ... I'm thinking of pairing ours down a bit. The inflatable hot tub and heater might need to go.
Sh*t was fine. Lol.Bet you didnt shite for 3 days after.
Except most dont learn, they buy them and throw them in a closet, that is how you end up with some of those terrible bags weighing 40lbs+, they are not water proof, they keep everything in one bag, they don't have proper straps and so on.... but it almost always has a cool patch. Priorities.I think for most people it’s just a good excuse to buy some cool gear and toys to learn about and play with. Hobby-ish but also serves a purpose.
Use the blood pressure cuff looking thing sold at home depot to break into cars. Used to move heavy stuff, also good for gapping car doors without f***ing the paint upYep, do stuff in layers, when I was going in the office I carried a sling bag, it contained first aid, flashlight, small prybar and some lock picks, water. it's purpose was strictly get me to my car, in the car I had a get home bag, it contained shelter spare clothes, compass, fire and water purification basically enough to last me overnight. once I get home I have packs for other stuff but unless we get a 400' Tsunami I'm staying put at home.
they sell them at HD now? wonder if my mil discount will work for it.Use the blood pressure cuff looking thing sold at home depot to break into cars. Used to move heavy stuff, also good for gapping car doors without f***ing the paint up
Ya I get it. No sweat off my back though. It’s the old horse and water thing.Except most dont learn, they buy them and throw them in a closet, that is how you end up with some of those terrible bags weighing 40lbs+, they are not water proof, they keep everything in one bag, they don't have proper straps and so on.... but it almost always has a cool patch. Priorities.
Then they go online and tell everyone how they will carry a rifle with 200 rounds + a handgun with 200 rounds + their bag full of useless sh*t and maybe their 16lbs plate carrier.
If they attempted hiking just once with all that junk they would realize how stupid they sound.
So you're saying we should have thinned the herd?Except most dont learn, they buy them and throw them in a closet, that is how you end up with some of those terrible bags weighing 40lbs+, ... If they attempted hiking just once with all that junk they would realize how stupid they sound.
NES delivers.Sh*t was fine. Lol.
Closer to reality than most of the “experts” here, because at least you remembered the toilet paper.
I prefer ChocoCat
That smaller outer pouch would be perfect for a packable rain jacket if it will fit. Keep the wet weather gear handy and not buried inside with a bunch of other items.View attachment 599656
This is what I leave in my car now. I thought that outer pouch would be good for first aid but it's actually kinda small. I also don't really get the design of having it separate but also permanently attached... It's a Teton Oasis 22. I also keep paracord and some other random stuff in the car that could then go on/in the bag. Though I need a replacement tarp/shelter.
Maybe that inexplicable permanently-attached smaller outer pouchThat smaller outer pouch would be perfect for a packable rain jacket if it will fit. Keep the wet weather gear handy and not buried inside with a bunch of other items.