I believe New Yorkers thought the same thing prior to having the rep that said he would never vote on such a law turn against them.
According to nysrpa This is exactly what happened.
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I believe New Yorkers thought the same thing prior to having the rep that said he would never vote on such a law turn against them.
Best first post ever1.
I appreciate all the ideas being voiced. I do plan on talking to my union president and see if we can get some support on the issue. Our biggest issue is that although the members of our "local" may be on board, we are part of a national parent union which is a rabid supporter of all things Democrat. I doubt they will have any interest in our side. Trust me, many times we feel that our unions are not speaking for us. I am one of my agency's firearms instructors so I do have a lot of contact with instructors in departments across the state. None of them I have spoken to are in favor of these regulations. Keep in mind most of us own personal guns that would be regulated into history if this passes. I am currently in the process of e mailing all my fellow police firearms instructors I know to get them on board. As an aside, its not just local law enforcement on board. I have several friends who are "gun people" in Federal agencies and they are equally up in arms over all this.
Hello all, this is my first post on the forum, although I have been reading it for the past several years. With the recent events happening I felt compelled to give an opinion. I am a career police officer in a mid sized community in the greater Boston area, and have been so for 26 years. I belive my experience gives me some insight into crime and criminal behavior. I am also a gun owner, avid target shooter, trap shooter, and hunter (bow and gun). I lawfully own several of the guns the Commonwealth has deemed "evil".
In recent days I have had numerous conversations with literally dozens of fellow police officers from all over the state, and we all agree on one thing: None of the proposed legislation recently filed will have any effect on crime or criminals. It will only punish and hinder lawful gun owners. Anyone who believes otherwise is detached from reality. I would like to convey to the others on this forum that most police officers are not in favor of burdensome regulations that serve no purpose other than to criminalize otherwise lawful citizens. Really, most street officers and line supervisors get it: the lawful gun owner is not the enemy. I am not concerned that someone who goes through the Commonwealth's licensing process is going to use their gun to commit a crime. It just doesnt happen that way. People who commit crimes with guns do not worry about licenses, magazine capacity, pre ban, post ban whatever. They don't care. That's why they are criminals. We realize that the lawful gun owner is our friend, family member, neighbor etc. They are members of the community we serve, and they should not be demonized for excercising a Constitutional right.
I would echo what others have posted and urge you to call your elected officials and voice your opinion on these recent legistlative proposals which will be disasterous to all lawful gun owners. This is my personal opinion only. Thank you.
I appreciate all the ideas being voiced. I do plan on talking to my union president and see if we can get some support on the issue. Our biggest issue is that although the members of our "local" may be on board, we are part of a national parent union which is a rabid supporter of all things Democrat. I doubt they will have any interest in our side. Trust me, many times we feel that our unions are not speaking for us. I am one of my agency's firearms instructors so I do have a lot of contact with instructors in departments across the state. None of them I have spoken to are in favor of these regulations. Keep in mind most of us own personal guns that would be regulated into history if this passes. I am currently in the process of e mailing all my fellow police firearms instructors I know to get them on board. As an aside, its not just local law enforcement on board. I have several friends who are "gun people" in Federal agencies and they are equally up in arms over all this.
Thanks for your nice posts here. We need law enforcement on our side. And the biggest reason for that is the way anti-gun politicians use the police to further their agenda. In the New York debate (as short as it was), we heard many times that the state police had advised the authors of the legislation -- that the state police liked just about any part of the law that was up for debate. This had the effect of shutting down a lot of potential opposition. In Mass, we see a similar result when discussions of gun rights come up.
Thanks for your efforts to move things in the right direction.
Thank you for posting that.
I think there might be a national organization for law enforcement against gun control. Perhaps you could start or join this in MA.
I'd say do it separate from the union. It would be easier that way.
Do you currently enforce the 1998 gun control laws? Then how will these new laws be any different? They will be enforced just the same.
I do appreciate your post and welcome any LEO who feels the way you do, but at the end of the day you will do your job and enforce unconstitutional crap and arrest citizens for owning a piece of plastic and metal.
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To bad you couldn't get a group of like minded officers to stand up and be heard. Your voice would go a LONG way towards helping the cause, especially if you all stood up as a united front and gave that speech to our legislature.
This is a great statement! +1I actually would love to be at the State House tomorrow, however I will be working. I hope to attend another one of the public events in the near future. One thing I find so striking is that a licensed gun owner is a person who has been throughly backgrounded, investigated, interviewed and deemed by the state to NOT be a criminal, yet some people are fearful of them. In my experience, whenever I encounter an LTC or FID holder I know that they are a person who wants to comply with the law, and has endured an extensive process to do so. Sounds like a good person to me. Certainly not someone the police need to be overly concerned with.