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Then yes, you can.I HAVE PROPERTY THERE
Yes.CAN I BUY IN FLA AND TAKE TO MASS.
IANAL
You may not purchase a handgun in a state other than which you reside. Owning property does not make you a resident. You indicate that you have a Florida Non-resident permit. Therefore, I do not believe that an FFL in Florida will sell to you, for you to bring back.
If you have legitimate dual-residence status, that may be a different story, but from what you posted in the OP, I'd say that it's a no-no.
Again, IANAL, and I may have it wrong, but if this were the case, then everybody would buy a piece of "property" in a free state, and not worry about the Mass. issues.
Also, TURN OFF YOUR CAPS LOCK.
I'm not a lawyer either, but Mister Happy's correct. It's federal law that you cannot directly purchase a handgun in a state other than the state in which you reside. You can buy a handgun in Florida and have it shipped to an FFL in Massachusetts who is then responsible for making sure that it's legal for you to take possession of it. Your Non-Resident Florida permit allows you to CARRY a firearm in Florida. Your ownership of property in Florida as you have stated it here doesn't make you a resident.
I HAVE PROPERTY THERE
So to clarify, if OP owns an actual home that he resides in, and not just an empty parcel of land, then while residing there he is in fact a Florida resident for the purpose of buying a handgun.
IANAL
You may not purchase a handgun in a state other than which you reside. Owning property does not make you a resident. You indicate that you have a Florida Non-resident permit. Therefore, I do not believe that an FFL in Florida will sell to you, for you to bring back.
If you have legitimate dual-residence status, that may be a different story, but from what you posted in the OP, I'd say that it's a no-no.
Again, IANAL, and I may have it wrong, but if this were the case, then everybody would buy a piece of "property" in a free state, and not worry about the Mass. issues.
Also, TURN OFF YOUR CAPS LOCK.
I AM A RESIDENT OF MASS WITH LTC HERE AND IN FLA (NON RESIDENT) IF I PURCHASE A NON COMPLIANT PISTOL, LIKE A KIMBER. OR CUSTOM MADE 1911. CAN I BRING IT HOME AND REGISTER IT HERE.
This is mostly wrong. If he has property where he makes a home. He is a resident. This is not grey. Its pure white.
He can buy a firearm now. Since FL doesn't require you to have a carry permit to buy firearms. Although switching that non-res to a res would make things cleaner.
If he doesn't have a resident license, he will have to use a tax bill or other government documentation to prove residence. Which is again 100% ok with the ATF (google form 4473 and look at the instructions for questions 3 and 20). But some dealers will give you trouble.
Don
Once you have that, you CAN buy firearms in FL on your FL permit and then bring them to MA. Don't forget to FA10 them when you arrive.
Wouldn't they be fa10-exempt since they aren't going to a new owner?
Any resident of the commonwealth who purchases or obtains a firearm, rifle or shotgun or machine gun from any source within or without the commonwealth, other than from a licensee under section one hundred and twenty-two or a person authorized to sell firearms under section one hundred and twenty-eight A, and any nonresident of the commonwealth who purchases or obtains a firearm, rifle, shotgun or machine gun from any source within or without the commonwealth, other than such a licensee or person, and receives such firearm, rifle, shotgun or machine gun, within the commonwealth shall within seven days after receiving such firearm, rifle, shotgun or machine gun, report, in writing, to the commissioner of the department of criminal justice information services the name and address of the seller or donor and the buyer or donee, together with a complete description of the firearm, rifle, shotgun or machine gun, including the caliber, make and serial number.
Wouldn't they be fa10-exempt since they aren't going to a new owner?
So to clarify, if OP owns an actual home that he resides in, and not just an empty parcel of land, then while residing there he is in fact a Florida resident for the purpose of buying a handgun.
This is mostly wrong. If he has property where he makes a home. He is a resident. This is not grey. Its pure white.
He can buy a firearm now. Since FL doesn't require you to have a carry permit to buy firearms. Although switching that non-res to a res would make things cleaner.
If he doesn't have a resident license, he will have to use a tax bill or other government documentation to prove residence. Which is again 100% ok with the ATF (google form 4473 and look at the instructions for questions 3 and 20). But some dealers will give you trouble.
Don
I had undeveloped land in NH - would that have allowed me to get a handgun at a NH FFL?
Just put a cheap rv on it, stay there. Boom, residence.Thanks for the clarification.
My issue was that the OP said, "property", not "a vacation home". I understand that different states have different requirements for purchase. If a tax bill is sufficient, cool for him. But a tax bill does not necessarily prove "residence".
I had undeveloped land in NH - would that have allowed me to get a handgun at a NH FFL?
So to clarify, if OP owns an actual home that he resides in, and not just an empty parcel of land, then while residing there he is in fact a Florida resident for the purpose of buying a handgun.
I had undeveloped land in NH - would that have allowed me to get a handgun at a NH FFL?
Just put a cheap rv on it, stay there. Boom, residence.
no, they are not FA-10 exempt
Because the law doesn't say they need to.Then how is it that 'new' residents don't have to register anything?
In particular, a new resident has no LTC to do the FA10 withBecause the law doesn't say they need to.
In particular, a new resident has no LTC to do the FA10 with
Not legally and that would be a Federal issue.
That was my point - there's a difference between owning property and having a residence. In the OP, that was not clear. Since the OP made it clear he had a NON-resident FL permit....