OPEN CARRY NH

[Adam_MA]

A right you refuse to exercise, is one you have lost forever!

 

[MarkM]

My view is similar to many here: open carry is a right I support but I choose to exercise that right very infrequently.

I would not open carry on a trip to the grocery store or going to a restaurant for dinner but I have open carried when concealed carry is inconvenient due to clothing or activity level:

1) when riding my bike on the local bike paths
2) hiking further north in NH
3) rarely when doing sweaty yard work (although I try to avoid that as I don't want neighbors and/or passers by to know I am a gun owner for security reasons).

Yes, I use a good belt and retention holster when open carrying, carry a non-lethal weapon as well, and (as always) I am very aware of my surroundings.

 

[Bruce for NH State Rep]

I've open carried on multiple occasions, and have yet to encounter the kind of pants-shitting hysterics one would expect south of the border.

 

[Admin]

5. Open Carry is fine and appropriate and the right MUST be exercised at times in order to preserve it for future generations.

Yes and chosing the right place to do so is also important. Doing so at a shopping mall 5 miles north of the MA border IMO may not be the best place to do so.

Coming over to my place for a BBQ it is encouraged to open carry.

 

[Cross-X]

Jim,

No reason, just shaking your tree to see if you'd fall out!

Darius

 

[Rob Boudrie]

Open Carry is fine and appropriate and the right MUST be exercised at times in order to preserve it for future generations.

It depends.

The Black Panther's exercise of open carry of long guns at various pu]blic meetings in CA is the 60s resulted in the termination of that right, not it's preservation.

 

[drgrant]

It depends.

The Black Panther's exercise of open carry of long guns at various pu]blic meetings in CA is the 60s resulted in the termination of that right, not it's preservation.

Yeah, like the flamingly liberal legislature in CA wouldn't have just closed that "hole" eventually, anyways?

All the same I agree that in some cases its possible "abuse" of
said right might result in public outcry, thus resulting in a domino
effect, eg, laws getting pushed, etc. In a place like NH
though, they're not going to have enough anti clout to swing
such a change legislatively. That might change in another 10
years or so if the state continues to get contaminated with
liberals/authoritarians, but not at present. It'd still be a tough
sell to say "We should ban open carry of guns because people
carrying them around in the open is offensive". I can see that
going over like a lead balloon in NH; just like every time some
dink says the two most hated words in NH politics- "sales tax".

I don't think open carry will really get recognized politically;
however people doing it safely, legally, and responding politely
to LEOS who have to respond goes a long way, at least in LE
circles. I'd rather have local LEOS "acclimated" to citizens
carrying guns than ones who freak out at the prospect.


-Mike

 

[Adam_MA]

Jim,
Great post, and email to the chief. I am interested to hear any response that you get, and am anxiously waiting my own move from this socialist hell hole just south of you!

 

[drgrant]

I sent an email to the Manchester PD as I want to hear what the chief has to say about this. Here is the contact information. I suggest a polite letter to him to remind him that the rights of NH residents should be respected:

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Jim, one minor nit... did you notice in the video, that the LEO
that originally "queried" him, was a NH DPS guy and not someone
from MPD? IIRC, MPD was called for "backup". (Least this is the
impression I got, correct me if I'm wrong). The MPD guy standing
there doing nothing didn't help much, though.


-Mike

 

[Adam_MA]

Don't worry, my plan is to be up there before the next elections!

 

[ScottS]

Don't worry, my plan is to be up there before the next elections!

Please! We need every vote we can get.

 

[Mikey]

Some of you guys are acting like b/c some people do not open carry b/c they feel it is a tactical disadvantage or personally unsafe that we are somehow going to vote to ban open carry or something? Not one person said it should be ban b/c of any liberal Ma**h*** reasons. Just b/c we would not walk down a city street with our stuff hanging out does not mean we are against the right to do so.


To think that somebody would vote different b/c they open carry their weapon as oppose to conceal carry it is wrong. It is all the 2A and I am confident in saying all of us on NES support it.

 

[Admin]

MA? Who cares about MA? This is NH not MA. If the MA people don't like it let them stay in their own state. Got that?

You have been assimilated by that state and I strongly suggest that you take off your emotional chains and start thinking like a NH resident not a slave of MA.

You are missing the point. They don't stay in MA. They shop in southern NH. Go ahead an open carry in Portsmouth. I will carry concealed. I'm thinking rationally and I will not be detained illegally by the popo in south east NH. I will open carry when I am around a population that is a NH majority.

Go to the "Friendly Toast" in Portsmouth while you open carry. Let me know how it turns out.

 

[ScottS]

Some of you guys are acting like b/c some people do not open carry b/c they feel it is a tactical disadvantage or personally unsafe that we are somehow going to vote to ban open carry or something? Not one person said it should be ban b/c of any liberal Ma**h*** reasons. Just b/c we would not walk down a city street with our stuff hanging out does not mean we are against the right to do so.


To think that somebody would vote different b/c they open carry their weapon as oppose to conceal carry it is wrong. It is all the 2A and I am confident in saying all of us on NES support it.

I'm not sure if this was aimed at my comment above, but I want Adam up here before the next election because we need every vote we can get to keep from going blue again this election cycle. That's what I was talking about.

 

[Admin]

I'm not sure if this was aimed at my comment above, but I want Adam up here before the next election because we need every vote we can get to keep from going blue again this election cycle. That's what I was talking about.

I think Mike knows that. I want all you guys to get up to NH when it is possible.

 

[Mikey]

I'm not sure if this was aimed at my comment above, but I want Adam up here before the next election because we need every vote we can get to keep from going blue again this election cycle. That's what I was talking about.

No, my comment is aimed at the general feeling of somehow if you do not open carry then you are a brainwashed "Masshat" who is a hindrance to the 2A.

 

[Admin]

Get a grip. I deal with reality. If you're so gunho like you CLAIM to be, go open carry at the friendly toast.

 

[Admin]

This is a culture war. Either we get assimilated by them or they get assimilated by us. Standing up and exercising our constitutional and legal rights is not a bad thing to do and I'm disappointed that some here are ashamed of it.

Go to Portsmouth and do it then!

 

[Admin]

Ya you open carry in Wilton.... Whoa ground breaking there. Out in the woods even...

What a pathfinder you are.

 

[Admin]

And since when is Portsmouth some kind of holy grail of open carry? Why are you fixated on it?

Because it's full of sheeple that will call the popo... But I'm sure you won't mind being detained by the popo for an hour as you explain to them that it's perfectly legal.

 

[drgrant]

I'm not missing the point at all but you are. You have already begun marking out "no go" areas for open carry while I say that our rights apply to all areas.

You have been assimilated by MA and they are still controlling you.

No, I don't think it's that complicated, Jim... I think Derek is just
being pragmatic. Additionally, open carry may not be welcome
in some private venues, and there is very little we can do about
that, legally speaking. A property owner might be an anti and
kick me out; and they'd be within their right to do so. Do I want
to eat dinner or express my rights?

As much as I agree with the premise that people SHOULD be
allowed to open carry if they want to; I realize that there is a
practical limit; eg, do I really want to get hassled by trying to
openly carry a gun in some bar, for instance? In some contexts
it just doesn't pay dividends very well to try to express ones'
rights.

-Mike

 

[Admin]

My point is and has been, I will open carry when I not you feel it is necessary.

In a high populated area open carry in my opinion not yours, is a bad idea.

I for one, not you, would not like to go to dinner only to be stopped for an hour with my GF and boys while I am interrogated by the popo.

My attitude, as you call it, actually led me to swear in and up hold the constitution of the United States for 8 years of my life. I think you are showing poor judgement in questioning my beliefs on our constitution.

God forbid we disagree on where to open carry.

 

[Admin]

But you went along with someone in the earlier part of the thread that attacked Dave for exercising his constitutional and lawful right to open carry in Manchester. I held your feet to the fire and the feet of other people here as well.

I didn't think it was a good idea. Open carrying in a high population area IMO isn't...

 

[Mikey]

There is a time and place for everything and each of us pick and choose the "right" time and place for us. Simply saying it is a right and must be used or lost shows little faith in the constitutions that you mention. Liken it to your freedom of speech, you can say whatever you want whenever you want, but you are not about to go to a NAACP event and yell "I hate N*****s" it would not be the time nor the place. Try explaining to them about your rights.

Just and example I am not a racist.

 

[sksguns]

Mark my words. We assimilate them or they will assimilate us. There is no middle ground here.

In the words of the Borg....

"You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile."

 

[Mikey]

I held your feet to the fire and the feet of other people here as well.

Is that what smells around here?

 

[Len-2A Training]

Is that what smells around here?

 

[Admin]

Your experience in the marines is admirable but not relevant. One does not have to serve in the military to have constitutional rights. So please stick to the original topic. Thanks.

It's is relevant when you question my respect for the constitution.

 

[Cross-X]

It's is relevant when you question my respect for the constitution.

You two guys should stop with the woofing and sniffing and just get a room!

 

[Len-2A Training]

You two guys should stop with the woofing and sniffing and just get a room!

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