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NSSF filed vs AGO!

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  1. Boston4567

    Boston4567 NES Member

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    Yes, and that's the problem. The entire federal NSSF lawsuit is based on a question that's already been answered. The allegation the lawsuit is making is "there's no guarantee that someone else won't interpret Maura's edict differently as it applies to Tavors, etc."

    Even a best case scenario win for our side in this case merely codifies the post 7/20/16 reality that Maura has laid out, it doesn't bring new AR-15s back to MA.
     

  2. milktree

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    So... why wouldn't the AG's office just say, "OK, you win"?
     
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    The AG's motion to quash has been denied. Plaintiffs can go ahead and depose the four police departments in question.

     
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  5. Boston4567

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    The AG's office has conceded that it doesn't believe her nonsense applies to those particular models of guns, but the problem is she doesn't have the authority to enforce her interpretation of her interpretation, because she had no real authority to make the original interpretation. So the plaintiff has the right to ask a court for relief.

    I know, it makes your head spin.
     
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    Would this qualify as a Catch 22?
     
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    Sweet.
    Tyrants do hate it when their authority is questioned.
    Maybe you should try South America or the Middle East dimples.
     
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  10. Boston4567

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    LOL:

    They also questioned Healey’s assertion that the distinction between banned and allowed weapons “has always been clear to persons of ordinary intelligence.”

    “For the Attorney General to state that …” the attorneys wrote, “necessarily implies that those people from the Attorney General’s Office who struggled and were unable to determine its meaning … must not be of ordinary intelligence.”​
     
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    The Attorney General correctly states that Plaintiff’s remaining claims only concern application of the Enforcement Notice to the following semi-automatic rifles: (1) the Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 and other .22 caliber rimfire AR-15 style rifles; (2) the Springfield Armory MIA; (3) the IWI Tavor; (4) the KelTec RFB; (5) the FN PS90; (6) the Kel-Tech Sub 2000; and (7) the Beretta CX4 Storm.

    taken from the decision....so does this mean this lawsuit is only for the above firearms?? What about anything on the 'ban list'?
     
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    I would love for the AG to explain how 22 rimfire rifles are exempt. Just a quick reference to MGL would suffice.
     
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    Yeah, that's one of the main aspects of the enforcement notice that just floors me. There is absolutely nothing in the law which supports that exemption, it's 100% fabricated.
     
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    . . . just like the rest of her diatribe!
     
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    I also seem to have missed how this became so narrowly focused. Were some of the claims dismissed?
     
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    Doesn't it protrudes beneath the barrel of the weapon?
     
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    I missed it too, until it showed up all of a sudden. I think they voluntarily narrowed their claims to avoid dismissal. I know I've beat this to death, but there really just isn't a good federal cause of action here
     
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    Ha! Indeed it does!

    Brilliant!
     

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