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strangenh
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"HB 696, Elder care gun confiscation" really should be called "HB 696, Adult Due Process Confiscation," just to be clear about the core issue. I know "we" got active on it because of the "deadly weapon" angle, but at the core the issue was a steamroller of due process because of imagined exigent circumstances that would be better handled by bills to help ensure a properly functioning police and court system.
StrangeNH is correct. We titled the bill at the beginning of the year and it morphed. The bill still allow for confiscation of firearms, but the real threat was the due process and constitutional violations.
FWIW, there was a flaw that I did not see until after a great state rep pointed it out. They used the word "person" not "vulnerable adult" While this would be a gross misreading of the statute, it is possible that this could apply to people other an vulnerable adult.
173-D:11 Protection by Peace Officers.
I. Whenever any peace officer has probable cause to believe that a person has been abused, exploited, or neglected, as defined in RSA 161-F:43 and RSA 173-D:2, that officer shall use all means within reason to prevent further abuse, exploitation, or neglect including, but not limited to:
(a) Confiscating any deadly weapons involved in the alleged abuse, exploitation or neglect.
BTW, has anyone found out why this was being pushed by a small group of people
FWIW, there was a flaw that I did not see until after a great state rep pointed it out. They used the word "person" not "vulnerable adult" While this would be a gross misreading of the statute, it is possible that this could apply to people other an vulnerable adult.
173-D:11 Protection by Peace Officers.
I. Whenever any peace officer has probable cause to believe that a person has been abused, exploited, or neglected, as defined in RSA 161-F:43 and RSA 173-D:2, that officer shall use all means within reason to prevent further abuse, exploitation, or neglect including, but not limited to:
(a) Confiscating any deadly weapons involved in the alleged abuse, exploitation or neglect.
BTW, has anyone found out why this was being pushed by a small group of people
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Like a lawyer who would likely gain business from people wronged by this law?
HB696 has been vetoed!
Ms. Olsen has published a copy of a the veto letter from the Governor . While I am not sure how the letter was obtained as the veto message is not on the nh.gov website as of Saturday morning I have taken the copy from FB and posted below.
Ms. Olsen has published a copy of a the veto letter from the Governor . While I am not sure how the letter was obtained as the veto message is not on the nh.gov website as of Saturday morning I have taken the copy from FB and posted below.
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While I agree with you in principle, this is absolutely news worth celebrating on its own -- HB696 was the only bill I had any concerns about, he's made his intentions clear on the other three.
Maybe not time to pop the cork, but absolutely time to start chilling the bubbly.
SpaceCritter
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I'm sufficiently jaded I want to see it come from the horse's mouth - not a third party - before I'll believe it's so. I, too, know how to use Photoshop.
'Sununu said some of the latest rejected bills were well-intentioned, such as creating a protective order for vulnerable adults.
In his veto measure, Sununu said this one (SB 696) could inadvertently endanger the victims of domestic violence by lumping this new order into the existing ones abuse victims can secure from a judge for a stalking or domestic violence protective order.
“However as drafted, this bill potentially reduces the protections available to domestic violence victims who are vulnerable adults by creating a tool that includes far fewer protections than current law,” Sununu said.
Some gun owner activists had urged Sununu to veto the bill and Sununu agreed under the bill someone’s Second Amendment rights “could be violated without judicial oversight.”' [Emphasis Supplied]
In his veto measure, Sununu said this one (SB 696) could inadvertently endanger the victims of domestic violence by lumping this new order into the existing ones abuse victims can secure from a judge for a stalking or domestic violence protective order.
“However as drafted, this bill potentially reduces the protections available to domestic violence victims who are vulnerable adults by creating a tool that includes far fewer protections than current law,” Sununu said.
Some gun owner activists had urged Sununu to veto the bill and Sununu agreed under the bill someone’s Second Amendment rights “could be violated without judicial oversight.”' [Emphasis Supplied]
Good news
Keep in mind that Bloomturd has a history of leaving his useful idiots with their ass hanging in the breeze once they are no longer useful.
Go for the throat on the ringleaders of this shitshow.
Keep in mind that Bloomturd has a history of leaving his useful idiots with their ass hanging in the breeze once they are no longer useful.
Go for the throat on the ringleaders of this shitshow.
^^^^^^^This exactly^^^^^^^
Now is the time to ID who is in this "cabal", and also to firm up our own side's influence and access.
Yup. Make sure to ID them, and prevent this from happening again. Expose the source(s).
Don't forget, Veto does not equal DEAD, Veto + Sustained = Dead.
Veto is more like a mortal wound.
Since this is a House Bill, the bill will go back to the House. Let's make sure the veto is sustained.
Now it is time to contact your State Rep.
Well done everyone
Veto is more like a mortal wound.
Since this is a House Bill, the bill will go back to the House. Let's make sure the veto is sustained.
Now it is time to contact your State Rep.
Well done everyone
NHPR's latest article includes a "Veto Tracker" with links to the veto statement, if any.
First gov in decades actually willing to do the job.NHPR said:
You do not need to be a paranoid to believe that is at all possible.
Never let a tragedy go to waste. These people suck!
I got right through to a staffer at 9:30 this morning. By the end of giving her my contact information I had to remind her which side I'm on. Keep those calls coming - our enemies are calling too.
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