- Apr 12, 2012
- North Shore
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There are no small threats .I'm not saying these current bills don't rate a 7 or 8, but maybe we should hold some of our ammo for when the 9s & 10s come down the pipe?
Nobody is saying to accept these bad bills, but maybe dial back the hyperbole? For example, I see a lot of messages calling out the "waiting period" bill as being a gun registration bill. This is disingenuous, and makes me not trust the messenger.
I agree with the general "everything pegs the meter" sentiment -- with the NRA-style hyperbole where every "call to action" is phrased as if every bill is the end of the world, the recipients inevitably suffer from motivational fatigue.
They've used up all the adjectives already, don't appear to have kept any in reserve for bigger threats in the future.
Please dont put words in my mouth or presume to know what my opinion on GG broadly or individual authors that contribute to GG may be.NHFC may or may not still feel this way about HB514 after amendments, but Granite Grok's Rick Olson definitely still does, he made the same claim about the waiting period bill just yesterday, Sure, JPK takes GG with a bucket of salt on RKBA issues, but Rick isn't nobody.
That's a direct quote:: NH Voters: Dr. Levenson for Congeress 2nd District.(beware)Please dont put words in my mouth or presume to know what my opinion on GG broadly or individual authors that contribute to GG may be.
I frequently quote GG and a number of contributors to GG and hold a great many of their contributors and the work they do in high regard
So getting back to "motivational fatigue", I stand behind my suggestion that Rick Olson went overboard a few days ago when he suggests the waiting period bill is a registration bill and states "That sneaky little gun registration scheme finds its way into the statute" in regards to HB 514 FN.I take GG with a bucket of salt on RKBA issues after all of the shenanigans/infighting/hypocritical reporting/bashing of bills in last year.
And that was a year ago wasnt it and it was over SB 500 as introduced deferring NH definition of "Firearm" to a Fed definition and other back biting over guest articlesThat's a direct quote:: NH Voters: Dr. Levenson for Congeress 2nd District.(beware)
I think Rick is right on target......So getting back to "motivational fatigue", I stand behind my suggestion that Rick Olson went overboard a few days ago when he suggests the waiting period bill is a registration bill and states "That sneaky little gun registration scheme finds its way into the statute" in regards to HB 514 FN.
I think Rick is right on target......
All of these bills are terribly written.....usually intentionally and loaded with ambiguous back doors and language that can be used by corrupt individuals within law enforcement and activist judges to ruin people's lives, the lives and reputations of them/their families and destroy their ability to hold jobs as a result
These people are trying to weaponize the legal code so they can use it against their political opponents and enemies.....if you doubt that then take a closer look at what went on in the 2016 elections and is still going on today
If you think for a single second that Altschiller, Rogers, Shurtleff and others dont hate your guts and wish you were dead then you're not paying attention to what these people are doing right in front of your face in plain sight and daring you to do something about it
What concerns me is that he didnt state that he would veto all four of the bills in questionI got a reply from Chris:
Thank you for contacting my office with your support for ensuring that second amendment rights
remain unchanged in New Hampshire.
When I ran for governor, I made a commitment to the people of New Hampshire that I would
protect our second amendment rights, and that's what I have done. The first bill I signed as
Governor was SB 12 - Constitutional Carry - ensuring that New Hampshire citizens are
guaranteed the fundamental right to carry a firearm in defense of themselves and their families,
as prescribed by Article 2a of our state constitution.
I believe that New Hampshire does it right. Our laws are well crafted and fit our culture of
responsible gun ownership and individual freedom. We should continue to focus our attention on
the problems we can solve and to work to ensure that New Hampshire continues as one of the
safest states in the nation. As long as I am in Concord, you can count on me to protect your
constitutional rights, and promote the principals of justice, equality of opportunity, and personal
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and opinions on this important issue. Please do not hesitate
to contact me should you have additional feedback or questions.
Christopher T. Sununu
I hope you're right because I'm not aware of anyone who's called/written his office having been provided assurances that the Gov will veto any of them let alone all 4.Most likely one of several form letters but it shows he is responsive and pro 2a. He has previously said that he will veto all 4.
This crap, and "backroom deals" is what brought us Chapter 180 and its follow-ups in Massachusetts. Stay on it, boys and girls.I am hearing that a group of lobbyists is working overtime to 'salvage' HB696. They have managed to convince some that this is *not* a anti-gun bill and therefore the Governor can sign it. Time for more calls.
He wont if voters make it clear that he will pay a dear price at the ballot box......IMO , Gov Sununu will not buy this BS.
http://gencourt.state.nh.us/bill_status/billText.aspx?sy=2019&id=14&txtFormat=htmlWhenever any peace officer has probable cause to believe that a person has been abused, exploited, or neglected, as defined in RSA 161-F:43 and RSA 173-D:2, that officer shall use all means within reason to prevent further abuse, exploitation, or neglect including, but not limited to:
(a) Confiscating any deadly weapons involved in the alleged abuse, exploitation or neglect.
Doesnt take into consideration what the process was in the other state, doesnt consider whether it complied with rules of evidence or even if the accused had a right to defend themselved/face their accusor.II. Any protective order issued by any other state, tribal, or territorial court related to abuse, exploitation or neglect of a vulnerable adult, including an ex parte order, shall be deemed valid