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New ALERT for H. 4552
- Thread starter Greg Derr
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Jim,
No chance of that!
If they wanted to, EOPS could release a CMR with a procedure for inmates of PRM to order ammo/supplies from out of state. From what I understand, there is no interest in GCAB/EOPS to tackle this. Best guess is that the AG is a "stronger" person than the yellow-spined Sec of Public Safety.
No chance of that!
If they wanted to, EOPS could release a CMR with a procedure for inmates of PRM to order ammo/supplies from out of state. From what I understand, there is no interest in GCAB/EOPS to tackle this. Best guess is that the AG is a "stronger" person than the yellow-spined Sec of Public Safety.
CRAP! Just saw the GOAL site. That sucks that the SAA guns were removed. It now makes me worry about what's going to happen.
http://goal.org/target/index.htm
So, when is this list going to be created?? And who exactly is going to put it together? And who do we have to call to get guns put on this list?
http://goal.org/target/index.htm
So, when is this list going to be created?? And who exactly is going to put it together? And who do we have to call to get guns put on this list?
C-pher, re-read the GOAL URL you posted, it answers your questions.
Briefly . . .
Some day! (probably be 6 months minimum before you see the first list)
GCAB recommends to EOPS. Sec of Public Safety accepts/rejects/ignores GCABs recommendations. He "writes the list".
Nobody, it doesn't work that way.
Briefly . . .
Some day! (probably be 6 months minimum before you see the first list)
GCAB recommends to EOPS. Sec of Public Safety accepts/rejects/ignores GCABs recommendations. He "writes the list".
Nobody, it doesn't work that way.
I read the link...
I guess I'm just out of touch as I don't know who these offices are...is the GCAB part of the CHSB?
Why do I have a feeling that almost nothing is going to be on this list?
I guess I'm just out of touch as I don't know who these offices are...is the GCAB part of the CHSB?
Why do I have a feeling that almost nothing is going to be on this list?
GCAB is an appointed body, most appointed by the Governor. Chief Ron Glidden is the chairman.
EOPS is run by the Secretary of Public Safety (appointee by the Governor).
Both are independent of each other, but GCAB is an "advisory" only board that reports to EOPS. Sec. of Public Safety can accept/reject/ignore whatever they do.
Ron will try, but he is a strict "law and order guy". Per this bill, any gun that was EVER advertised ANYWHERE in the WORLD as a "plinking gun" in marketing literature will be DOA and can't be added to this List.
AG can still over-rule anything with "consumer protection" as his cover.
Better than being poked in the eye with a sharp stick, but certainly isn't a real answer to the problem. Don't expect too many guns other than some space guns, Pardinis, etc. to be added to this List. For instance, I wouldn't expect a S&W 41 (already approved anyway) or HS Victor to ever make this List, although both are really only target guns . . . because you could shoot a rabbit/squirrel with one of them!
So the key will be that the marketing literature will have to be as pure as the driven snow . . . target only . . . or it's ineligible for the List.
EOPS is run by the Secretary of Public Safety (appointee by the Governor).
Both are independent of each other, but GCAB is an "advisory" only board that reports to EOPS. Sec. of Public Safety can accept/reject/ignore whatever they do.
Ron will try, but he is a strict "law and order guy". Per this bill, any gun that was EVER advertised ANYWHERE in the WORLD as a "plinking gun" in marketing literature will be DOA and can't be added to this List.
AG can still over-rule anything with "consumer protection" as his cover.
Better than being poked in the eye with a sharp stick, but certainly isn't a real answer to the problem. Don't expect too many guns other than some space guns, Pardinis, etc. to be added to this List. For instance, I wouldn't expect a S&W 41 (already approved anyway) or HS Victor to ever make this List, although both are really only target guns . . . because you could shoot a rabbit/squirrel with one of them!
So the key will be that the marketing literature will have to be as pure as the driven snow . . . target only . . . or it's ineligible for the List.
H4552
FYI, i got some email yesterday about H4552, its being stalled i think in the HOuse, the email strongly contacting your REPRESENTATIVE.
The source of this info is very credible....
Anyone else aware of this. I sent my letter out last night...
JimB
FYI, i got some email yesterday about H4552, its being stalled i think in the HOuse, the email strongly contacting your REPRESENTATIVE.
The source of this info is very credible....
Anyone else aware of this. I sent my letter out last night...
JimB
wchandler
NES Member
I was told that it's already dead. That it ends sometime this week and Goal with have to refile next year. Maybe next year the single action piece will make it! Although, we all no it won't. They are just so unsafe and have constant malfunctions! Thank god we have the AG to protect us....
Legislative year ends Friday, June 30th in MA!
So...does this mean that the work to get it through the Senate is wasted? I don't know enough about the legislative process.
What I'm imagining is this: if the bill is not passed tomorrow, it dies completely. Next year a new bill has to be drawn up and passed through both houses.
Am I correct? Incorrect?
What I'm imagining is this: if the bill is not passed tomorrow, it dies completely. Next year a new bill has to be drawn up and passed through both houses.
Am I correct? Incorrect?
Jeremiah,
You are correct . . . if we get real lucky!
Each legislative session starts over just like "it never was even thought of before". Includes all the ban all guns, insurance on each gun, etch S/N on ammo, etc. bills as well.
You are correct . . . if we get real lucky!
Each legislative session starts over just like "it never was even thought of before". Includes all the ban all guns, insurance on each gun, etch S/N on ammo, etc. bills as well.
I've read the June 30th date in numerous published (non-gun) sources as the end of "formal sessions". They will usually come back for special items (budget, Constitutional Convention on gay rights, etc.) or non-controversial "clean up items", but not for controversial items that won't win them votes come election time (e.g. helping legal gun owners).
Continue discussion of H4552, implementation (assuming Gov doesn't veto it), etc. here.
Thanks.
Thanks.
I'm not holding my breath on this one. Unlike CA where SAA and such are automatically exempt. I'm not seeing a lot of pistols being put on this list.
While now most SAA pistols are used for cowboy action shooting...there are still people that carry them and use them for things other than cowboy shooting. SO, like Len has been saying, seeing a lot of these on the list isn't very probable.
I think that the same is going to go for 1911s and the like. While they can be dressed up to a race gun, the basic platform is a 1911 and that in itself isn't a target pistol.
While now most SAA pistols are used for cowboy action shooting...there are still people that carry them and use them for things other than cowboy shooting. SO, like Len has been saying, seeing a lot of these on the list isn't very probable.
I think that the same is going to go for 1911s and the like. While they can be dressed up to a race gun, the basic platform is a 1911 and that in itself isn't a target pistol.
Great News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Governor tomorrow will sign a bill that is very important to the gunnies of Massachusetts.
Guess what bill this might be?
C-X
The Governor tomorrow will sign a bill that is very important to the gunnies of Massachusetts.
Guess what bill this might be?
C-X
Adam_MA said:
SWEEEEEEEEEEET!
Adam_MA said:
I want some of what you're smoking!
![[laugh2]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/014.gif "Laugh at above [laugh2]")
Call me pessimestic...I called, I hounded, and kept checking back, I sent letters, I sent e-mails...I did what I could.
But I don't think that this is going to do much of anything for the average sports shooter. CAS, IPSC, IDPA, etc...
But I don't think that this is going to do much of anything for the average sports shooter. CAS, IPSC, IDPA, etc...
