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If and I mean if the reciprocity law is passed and passes constitutional muster, and the dipshit dictators in NY, CA et al decide to ignore the law, I see a mega law suit and significant award putting a dent in their coffers.
What worries me is how quickly the states in question will take to tighten up the amount of permits they issue.
If and I mean if the reciprocity law is passed and passes constitutional muster, and the dipshit dictators in NY, CA et al decide to ignore the law, I see a mega law suit and significant award putting a dent in their coffers.
Do you think the NRA would allow this bill to fail? What would Trump say to them?This is never gonna pass with Ryan and the other traitors in there, guys.
Unless there is direct punishment for all those that disreguard the carry Bill what's to stop states from just ignoring it like so many other laws,regs,bills.
Section 37: Violations of constitutional rights; punishment
Section 37. No person, whether or not acting under color of law, shall by force or threat of force, willfully injure, intimidate or interfere with, or attempt to injure, intimidate or interfere with, or oppress or threaten any other person in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the constitution or laws of the commonwealth or by the constitution or laws of the United States. Any person convicted of violating this provision shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than one year or both; and if bodily injury results, shall be punished by a fine of not more than ten thousand dollars or by imprisonment for not more than ten years, or both.
Remember, having a penalty for police misconduct in the MA Katrina Bill is what killed it at a point in the process where bills are generally a fait accompli.Law provides for "Reasonable attorneys fees" and "Damages" whatever that amounts to.
MA would go along grudgingly. We already have a culture where tens of thousands of "ordinary, unimportant, unconnected" people can carry, so it would not be a huge shift. NJ, NYC, and much of CA have a culture where having a carry permit ranks right up there with having the governer's private cell # on speed dial.Um, you forgot MA.
Probably not much change, since doing so will have no effect on little people from out of state carrying in their empires.What worries me is how quickly the states in question will take to tighten up the amount of permits they issue.
If and I mean if the reciprocity law is passed and passes constitutional muster, and the dipshit dictators in NY, CA et al decide to ignore the law, I see a mega law suit and significant award putting a dent in their coffers.
It is not at all obvious to me that the federal government had the constitutional authority to force states into recognizing concealed carry permits issued by other states. And if they do by means of some BS reading of the commerce clause (it shall be lawful to carry any gun that's been in interstate commerce....) it would be a significant blow to states right.
I, for one, would rather see the Justice Department sue individual cities and states for infringing upon the rights of people to keep and bear arms in just the same way that they sue local governments for infringing upon other rights.
Um, you forgot MA.
If the COTUS had half a sack, they would realize that the SCroTUS has no authority to rule on the constitutionality of laws, and that the ConTUS gives them the authority over the SCroTUS: " .. with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make."
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the scotus would be tasked with ruling on any constitutional challenge to law, assuming someone brings it to trial .
Where exactly are these specifically located in/protected by the constitution like the 2A?On the other hand, how many of you are NOT in favor of national "right to marry anyone you damned well please", "health care", and abortion? I suspect many will view that as Federal over-reach but if YOU like the desired outcome it's OK for the Fed to over-reach. Thus you/we are no different from anyone on the wrong side of the aisle who goes apeshit when their knickers are knotted.
"Personally", having found myself in the position, I'd like "National MOT" standards so I will know I can have my car registered and inspected without being told "well bub, it might have been legal in ... but it's not here."
Only because they usurped that power, and the Congress lacks the sack to reign them in.
If the COTUS had half a sack, they would realize that the SCroTUS has no authority to rule on the constitutionality of laws, and that the ConTUS gives them the authority over the SCroTUS: " .. with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make."
Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell Mum on National Reciprocity for Concealed Carry
its just a distraction from tax fail, amnasty push and a pile of other bullshit they dont want to pay attention to
They wont actually do anything on this
Things are changing. There is less and less of an excuse, the mask is falling off as all these RINO are being shown to be no different than democrats. They want to go back to a minority so they can whine and do nothing.so you're basically saying nothing changed and we all got tricked?
what good is a non politician president if we dont get rid of the rest of the looneys
So the committee is "considering" bringing this bill to a vote tomorrow? Obviously if this gets out of committee it probably passes the house, but the two Republican women in the senate along with mental incompetents like McCain will vote this thing down.
There's a good chance of it getting a vote out of committee, but once it hits Speaker Ryan's desk it's DOA. If Ryan gets it mixed up with some other bill and it does pass the house in the next few weeks/months, you can bet your bottom dollar we're getting another mass shooting with 20+ dead the week it comes up for a vote in the Senate.
At this point, I'm convinced any and all Pro-2A legislation is going to have to be done state by state. Federally it's either a keep the status quo or it's gun control bills that get passed. We haven't had any pro-2A legislation on the federal level since 1986 with FOPA, which considering the Hughes Amendment, really was a zero sum gain.
Considering the Hughes amendment it was a lossSo the committee is "considering" bringing this bill to a vote tomorrow? Obviously if this gets out of committee it probably passes the house, but the two Republican women in the senate along with mental incompetents like McCain will vote this thing down.
There's a good chance of it getting a vote out of committee, but once it hits Speaker Ryan's desk it's DOA. If Ryan gets it mixed up with some other bill and it does pass the house in the next few weeks/months, you can bet your bottom dollar we're getting another mass shooting with 20+ dead the week it comes up for a vote in the Senate.
At this point, I'm convinced any and all Pro-2A legislation is going to have to be done state by state. Federally it's either a keep the status quo or it's gun control bills that get passed. We haven't had any pro-2A legislation on the federal level since 1986 with FOPA, which considering the Hughes Amendment, really was a zero sum gain.
Move. That's what I plan to do next year and I don't even live in Mass. Just work there.God I hope not, otherwise MA is doomed. We'll never see anything positive here.
Move. That's what I plan to do next year and I don't even live in Mass. Just work there.
Don't mean to bring this off topic, but it pertains to gun freedom somewhat.Easy said than done. I've been looking for work in NH for a year now.