Mexico invades Arizona

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TUCSON, Ariz. — Four Mexican soldiers crossed into Arizona and held a U.S. Border Patrol agent at gunpoint before realizing where they were and returning to Mexico, federal authorities said Wednesday.

The confrontation occurred early Sunday on the Tohono O'odham Indian Reservation, about 85 miles southwest of Tucson, in an area fenced only with barbed wire, said Dove Crawford, a spokeswoman for the Border Patrol.

The soldiers, outfitted in desert camouflage, pointed their rifles at the agent and shouted at him not to move, Crawford said. They lowered their weapons after about four minutes when the agent convinced them of who he was and where they were, she said. The soldiers then retreated into Mexico.

The Mexican government has sent soldiers north along sections of the border in efforts to tamp down drug-related violence.

State Department spokesman Gonzalo Gallegos in Washington said the encounter "stemmed from a momentary misunderstanding as to the exact location of the U.S.-Mexican border."

Portions of the Tohono O'odham reservation's 75-mile border with Mexico have been reinforced with vehicle barriers or other fencing to keep out illegal immigrants and drug smugglers. But other areas on the reservation and other stretches of border either have only barbed wire or no markers at all, making it hard to distinguish the boundary.

"There are places where there are no markers, at least not easily found," said Lloyd Easterling, a Border Patrol spokesman in Washington. "There's no line painted in the sand or anything like that."

He added: "We're working with the Mexican government to make sure that this doesn't happen again. This can't be happening."

Mexican Embassy spokesman Ricardo Alday in Washington said in a statement that both countries are investigating.

"It seems that there are dissimilar versions of what happened, and both countries are trying to clarify it together," Alday said.

"Law enforcement operations have led, from time to time, to innocent incursions by both U.S. and Mexican law enforcement personnel and military units into the territory of both nations, and in particular along the non-demarcated areas of our border," he said.

T.J. Bonner, president of the National Border Patrol Council, the union for Border Patrol agents, said the incursions have created a disturbing pattern.

Bonner said there have been at least a half-dozen situations in recent years in which Mexican soldiers have entered U.S. territory and shot at Border Patrol agents.

"It's a minor miracle that none of our agents have been killed or seriously injured," he said.

"It's inexcusable to not know where the border is" when military units have global positioning capabilities, Bonner said.

The instances in which the Border Patrol strays into Mexico are few and far between, Bonner said.

And "we have no incursions with Canada," he added. "Absolutely none."
 
Most of the Mexican military incursions in this country (and there have been a LOT) are due to them acting as guards for the drug mules.

It's ridiculous.
 
it can be really difficult to see exactly were the borders are, especially when there are no either natural or man made markers. ive crossed into macedonia once or twice by accident because of it, but not by more then 40 or so feet.
but like one of the posters said, the mexican army is terribly corrupt, and they could be there escorting the drugs in, insted of being on roving patrols to catch the people who are already paying them off.
 
Don't know about you, but if I was a border patrol agent, and Mexicans in camouflage cam toward me pointing their guns telling me not to move and I was in America, I would have unloaded on them!
 
Don't know about you, but if I was a border patrol agent, and Mexicans in camouflage cam toward me pointing their guns telling me not to move and I was in America, I would have unloaded on them!


and then you would of been a dead border agent.
4 vs 1 arent the best odds.
 
ok... couple of things here...


1 - Mexico has been flipping (yes, trying to lay off the swearing) invading the US of A for decades now. We now call them undocumented workers.

2 - This is the THIRD FREAKING TIME that the US of A has had an 'incursion" with Mexican troops or troops crossing the Mexican boarder.


At what EFFING point are we going to put our troops on the board and not fargen blow the living poop out of anyone/thing that crosses???

this load of horse pucky is nothing more then our government being complete total pussies (cats) about boarder patrol and immigration.
 
Time to use the bomb for a third time. Though I do like Jay Severin's idea electrified fence and machine guns with big signs saying "el climbo el shocko" And rest assured if it was us troops on the wrong side of the border the damn UN would be screaming bloody murder.
 
A very, very large crater with mines and a giant wall might be a good way to let them know where the border is.
 
T.J. Bonner, president of the National Border Patrol Council, the union for Border Patrol agents, said the incursions have created a disturbing pattern.

Bonner said there have been at least a half-dozen situations in recent years in which Mexican soldiers have entered U.S. territory and shot at Border Patrol agents.


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Maybe a couple of accidental bombings of Mexican military installations would help clear up the confusion.

I read an article a few months ago that predicted a shooting war with Mexico within 10 years.
 
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Ken
 
I'm confused. The border was ummarked EXCEPT for barbed wire? Do Mexican troops normaly decorate their fields with barbed wire for no purpose?
 
Here's an idea that will make it more difficult to cross the US/Mexican Border....and it will create thousands of jobs for the rest of our lifetime....(well, most of us anyway)

Dig a canal from the gulf of Mexico to the Pacific along the border. Build a series of bridges for your border crossing. Make the water line start at the end of the Mexican territory so that the US is the only country with rights to patrol the canal.

Charge huge fees for any ships that use it... I assume the current in there would be too great for any swimmers to survive so you eliminate that aspect of the the invaision....
 
ok... couple of things here...


1 - Mexico has been flipping (yes, trying to lay off the swearing) invading the US of A for decades now. We now call them undocumented workers.

2 - This is the THIRD FREAKING TIME that the US of A has had an 'incursion" with Mexican troops or troops crossing the Mexican boarder.


At what EFFING point are we going to put our troops on the board and not fargen blow the living poop out of anyone/thing that crosses???

this load of horse pucky is nothing more then our government being complete total pussies (cats) about boarder patrol and immigration.
Oh no. Lots more than three times my friend. LOTS more.
 
we simply need to build a big freaking wall. Put fully ARMED US troops on that wall and basically make sure that they are well aware that we will shoot at anyone crossing illegally.
 
Here's an idea that will make it more difficult to cross the US/Mexican Border....and it will create thousands of jobs for the rest of our lifetime....(well, most of us anyway)

Dig a canal from the gulf of Mexico to the Pacific along the border. Build a series of bridges for your border crossing. Make the water line start at the end of the Mexican territory so that the US is the only country with rights to patrol the canal.

Charge huge fees for any ships that use it... I assume the current in there would be too great for any swimmers to survive so you eliminate that aspect of the the invaision....




The Canel Sounds great. Make it wide enough for Super Tankers and Aircraft Carriers to float thru from the Gulf to the Pacific.



What the hell are the Bridges for?

Come to think of it. We already have something like that. Its called the Picataqua River
 

The Canel Sounds great. Make it wide enough for Super Tankers and Aircraft Carriers to float thru from the Gulf to the Pacific.



What the hell are the Bridges for?

Come to think of it. We already have something like that. Its called the Picataqua River


I was assuming we could use the bridges to allow law abiding citizens of both countires to cross the border. I don't hate Mexicans....I just hate law breakers...doesnt' really matter what nationality they are.
 
we simply need to build a big freaking wall. Put fully ARMED US troops on that wall and basically make sure that they are well aware that we will shoot at anyone crossing illegally.

Too long, too hard to patrol. I like the canal and croc's idea - let nature do the work.
 
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