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Maura Says Printing 3D Guns in Ma. Illegal

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by rwl1955, Aug 9, 2018.

  1. Peicemaker

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    I get the sentiment, but shes more like some rogue Soviet Commissar type character than a Hitleresque one. The american left is DIRECTLY influenced by marxist/ communist thought. Healy would love nothing more than to round up all the gun owners and do a mini holodomor. Nobody besides goofy larpers are influenced by National Socialism.
     

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    Hillary proves otherwise except for the whole Trump getting elected to spite her last few years on Earth thing.
     
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    Obviously but the likeness is too striking to overlook
     
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    You're referencing the wrong laws, but she's being disingenuous with her statement. The Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988 makes that illegal federally, and this whole hysteria becomes stupidly moot: Undetectable Firearms Act - Wikipedia
     
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    This is the same Plastic Gun Hysteria that came about when Glocks were first brought into the country back in '86.

    Malodave
     
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    100% this. She just made the best argument against any new laws on the subject.
     
  7. rwl1955

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    Can't come soon enough for me, she #1 on my shit list.
     
  8. Horrible

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    Her statement is nothing more than a reminder of what the existing (stupid ass) MA lawrs are. Can't possess firearm without a license, need to be on the roster if sold by FFL, and for some dumb reason, she even threw the storage law in there! WTF does that have to do with 3D printed guns versus any other firearms?!

    Whatever. More of her drivel to ignore.
     
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  9. kevin9

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    No. I quoted the law she referenced to attempt to justify her mumbo-jumbo, my point being that law does not support her assertion that 3D printed plastic guns are illegal.

    Furthermore, as far as I can tell the Undetectable Firearms Act does not make 3D printed plastic guns specifically illegal either. It's basically the same as the MA law (surprise, surprise), except it sets a standard for detectability of equivalence to 3.7 oz of metal. It doesn't say a gun has to have that much metal i.e., cannot be all plastic, only that it has to be as detectable to airport x-ray machines as that much metal. And the article I referenced shows that 3D printed guns are detectable.

    I think we're in violent agreement that Healey's pronouncement is full-'o-crap.
     
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    Nope, just stating it WAS intentional. Literally a "nothing to see here" moment, full on pandering. Those who know better ignore it and carry one since nothing changed, those that don't (hoplophobes), kiss her ass for being the awesome AG she is and protecting them (when she really didn't do anything).
     
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    I had ZERO interest in 3D printers before... now I want one. Only because they want to say I can’t. How can Linksy write a law overruling federal law? We need trump to get his 2nd SCOTUS pick in then get all this shit overturned!
     
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    Maura is so vapid and useless. This reminds me of Die Hard and the "undetectable plastic glocks."

    This fake law doesn't even make sense. What about all the metal components? So retarded.
     
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    Lets all send our favorite politicians empty boxes with the slogan "Ghost Gun Inside" printed on the outside. Would probably tie up the MSP for weeks and land me in jail for mailing empty boxes or something...
     
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  14. AHM

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    The article you referenced claims that a printed gun was detected in carry-on luggage. That presumably means by an X-ray machine.

    The printed gun which the passenger surrendered matched no design that the TSA knew of, and they speculate he may have designed it himself. Maybe the TSA needs to get out more, and it was a standard design they hadn't seen.

    On the other hand, no one who designs their own gun from scratch "accidentally" leaves it in the luggage they're going to use on a trip. If it was a custom job, he was obviously probing security with the design.


    Also, there's no evidence cited that TSA subsequently verified that this alleged custom gun tripped a walk-through metal detector. UFA requires guns to be detectable by X-ray machines and walk-through metal detectors. So there's no evidence cited that the gun was actually legal.
     
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    GHOST GUN.

    BOO!

    Now tell me, in all honesty, just how the safety of the CommonWealth is threatened by this?



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    The revolver was loaded. Is that enough to trip the metal detector? Unloaded, if he didn't include some metal in the frame, yeah, he might have been in violation. It was either checked and passed or not checked (or checked/failed/ignored)

    The Liberator design includes an ingot of steel epoxied into the frame. It WILL be detected in an airport metal detector. The plastic casts enough shadow to render the shape on the x-ray.
     
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    Personally, I'm scared spitless of a piece of plastic that has no magazine, no trigger group, no slide and no ammo. I can understand why they're nervous...
     
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  18. AHM

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    True all dat.

    What I'm wondering is whether the guy's flown since with his Casper Mark II...
     
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    LOL. The average ignoramus buys all this crap in the media because they simply don't know how firearms work. It has also been drilled into their brains through years of public edumacation, watching anti-gun TV shows on anti-gun networks and being bombarded with Follywood propaganda that only bad guys have guns.
     
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    Actually, the DD Liberator does have an all plastic barrel. Even the spring is plastic. The only operating metal parts are the firing pin (a nail) and the cartridge. There is also a chunk of metal that gets epoxied into the base to keep it from running afoul of the "undetectable firearm" law.

    Yeah, shooting it rips the barrel to hell and gone. I believe the barrel is replaced with every shot. Think of it as a one- to three-use zip gun and you won't be far off.
     
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    There's a trigger group in it. [rofl]

    But, it's basically just a Gen3 G17 without a serial number. And I can buy a handgun from a private party in Georgia without any paperwork legally. So after a few transfers, there's really no trail.

    That doesn't take into account stolen, lost/recovered guns. It's just such BS.
     
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    Too bad that these a**h***s don't research existing firearms laws. But, maybe they do and see that they don't fit the narrative. Jack.
     
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    "Not My Attorney General" your personal agenda doesn't TRUMP my rights as an American.
     
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    Well, it looks like plastic guns don't work so no need to ban them!
     
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    I did use the plural "bullets" on purpose as I suppose you can get one down the pipe before the pipe melts too small to send a second one down.
     
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    I want to build a rifle made completely out of JB-Weld. To make it legal, by being detectable, I will drill the bore for a barrel liner...
     
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    That is her karma.
    She had plans for this country that would make any movie villain cringe and it all got snatched away from her.
    Nothing was more certain in the world than her winning.
    That is going to eat her up like flesh eating bacteria till the day she dies.
     
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