Massachusetts family suing Cabela's over ammunition sale in son's death

[mothybee]

Not negligent. How many times do you point guns at yourself and pull the trigger, at 5am, with another dude present???

Haven't you ever seen the Russian Roulette finals on ESPN?

 

[Broc]

There folks that hunt with primitive firearms and they never updated their FID cards. You can make bullets from molds and lead. You can make powder easily (not going to quote the recipe). So I guess caps are the only thing you need. Wait a flintlock and you don't need caps....

I too find it hard to believe the kid didn't get carded as the cashier is told to by the register. If he had an FID they would have sold powder and caps for sure, but not without. I have also bought some empty MTM cartridge boxes for reloading...left wallet in the car and they wanted to see my LTC. My wife said I'll show you mine and the cashier said no you're not buying them. Left them on the counter.....ordered from Midway when I got home.

A lot of States don't require a license for powder or caps.

I am assuming if they are going after Cabelas there is video evidence, a CC transaction or some sort of receipt as evidence and the kid didn't buy that in NH.

 

[Broc]

Why is this classified as a suicide? Seems more the case of a ND.

That story sounds like BS.

I need more details on how it was stuck.

Did the hammer strike the cap, it went off but it didnt ignite the powder causing the kid to look down the barrel?
Did the ball get stuck in the barrel (squib)?
Did he forget to put powder in a cylinder?
Why was he looking down the barrel instead of removing the cylinder?

There are too many questions.

This sounds a lot like the "he was cleaning it and the gun went off" BS cops say every time one of their own shoots himself.

I am not calling the family liars. But people in general lie so much, I dont believe anything until I see the details.

 

[ddeck]

Haven't you ever seen the Russian Roulette finals on ESPN?

That's on the Ocho, not the main ESPN

 

[Bigfudge16]

got a chuckle out of the attorney statement "How many times does it have to happen before corporate Cabela's wakes up and says "We're not doing enough""?

Is there a rash of underage kids buying black powder without a license and killing themselves that I'm not aware of?

 

[ddeck]

30k a year in MA and you have what you need? Not sure how you did that but respect!

100% doable for a single person with no mortgage and low RE taxes. With no debt, you have plenty left over for fun. I agree, though, that for a family (or even two people, that's going to be tough.

In my opinion, it's the add-ons that are money vampires:

Mortgage
Car Loan
RE Taxes
Cable/entertainment

Food isn't terrifically expensive compared to these others. The big thing is that if you make $100k, you're only really taking home $70-75. At $30k, it's almost all yours due to our wonderfully progressive tax system in the US.

 

[whatluck]

100% doable for a single person with no mortgage and low RE taxes. With no debt, you have plenty left over for fun. I agree, though, that for a family (or even two people, that's going to be tough.

In my opinion, it's the add-ons that are money vampires:

Mortgage
Car Loan
RE Taxes
Cable/entertainment

Food isn't terrifically expensive compared to these others. The big thing is that if you make $100k, you're only really taking home $70-75. At $30k, it's almost all yours due to our wonderfully progressive tax system in the US.

very few people have a grasp of what they actually need

shelter
water
food
pornhub premium

 

[Broc]

30k a year in MA and you have what you need? Not sure how you did that but respect!

When I was in college and rent was $600/month, I was living on $40K. But that was back in 2009/10.

I was driving a new car (but not a $50K car), had money for guns, food, heating ... I was saving very little and wasn't putting anything in a 401K.

I could have saved more if I didn't spend money on guns or my reef tank.