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Maryland Police Hassle Unarmed Florida Tourist because he had CCW Permit
- Thread starter nhfiat
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You're friend gave you some foolhardy advise. There is zero reason to mention LTC or anything about carrying unless for some unnecessary reason, they happen to ask you directly.
Of course, the problem is, if they do ask, they probation have a chip on their shoulder that they want to get off.
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True, with an emphasis on the 'for good'. Too many stories of cops murdering people for not complying, so I really don't fault people for doing so as much as some people. Sometimes you are left with only 2 choices, comply or die. Maybe soon this will change and those will be the only two choices for the police.
Here in Ma. They know when they run your name if you own a gun.
Is this not the case if your name is run out if state?
You need a new friend, or at least put him on the list of friends who gives idiotic advice... That's right up there with getting pulled over for speeding and declaring you have a flare gun in your get home bag...
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This also sparks memories of neg reps when I tell guys who post that their wives/girlfriends "don't like" or "won't allow" guns to man the hell up....
Some states have a "Declare" requirement (Michigan???) if you have a CPL/CCW/LTC, whether you are actively carrying or not.
I've asked an ex-JBT friend of mine how this scenario would play in Massachusetts, his advice was "No cop on the side of the road is going to care about a plastic card in your wallet, but you damned well better declare if you are actively carrying... And turn on the interior light, and keep your seatbelt on, and lace your hands through the steering wheel, and the first thing out of your mouth better be 'Officer, I have a License to Carry and I AM armed at this time'"
I guess in Maryland the "No cop on the side of the road" part of his analysis doesn't really apply.![[angry]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/008.gif "Angry [angry]")
Ahh ya f**k that
This story is bizarro land. I'm not sure how they even knew this guy had a gun, unless he had like NRA stickers on his car or something... or he was stupid enough to put his FL CWL/CHL or whatever they call it in a visible location in his wallet.
-Mike
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EXACTLY.
First off - why did he pull him over , and secondly - how did he know he had a permit.
Not for nothing - but from the description in the story it almost sounds like the cop was looking for a reason to pull them over, called in the FL plate - maybe BECAUSE he thought the guy might be carrying - called in the plate, found out he DID indeed have a permit , pulled the guy over BECAUSE of that - and then beat around the bush just long enough to try and make it seem like that wasn't the original reason WHY he pulled him over - and then it turned to shit from there.
An interesting piece of information would be to know if the cop had previously busted interstate travelers from other states carrying what would be illegal handguns in Maryland.
Here in MA - if they run your name - they can get the ENTIRE list of guns they think you own.
Yes I know, and some times there not accurate
I was asking if that also applies to your name run out of state?
I believe some states have their conceal licenses tied into your drivers license, not sure if that is the case with Florida.
Putting the screws to the guy because he had a firearms related sticker on his car?
No way would the cops do something like that...
http://www.ammoland.com/2011/06/baltimore-police-issue-2nd-amendment-decal-warning/
Leave the wife, take the pistol
Putting the screws to the guy because he had a firearms related sticker on his car?
No way would the cops do something like that...
http://www.ammoland.com/2011/06/baltimore-police-issue-2nd-amendment-decal-warning/
Another thing for certain is that the stopped and detained driver is dealing with an armed individual who may be overly tense due to spotting a 2A sticker.
The cop was a Maryland Transportation Authority cop and started tailing the Expedition after they got out of the Ft. McHenry tunnel. You have to pay the $4.00 toll to travel through the tunnel, which means you stop at a toll booth. And it probably means your license plate is photographed when you do.
My guess is that his license plate was photographed and *AUTOMATICALLY SCANNED* at the tunnel entrance and by the time he was on the other side, he had been flagged as a "suspicious person" for some reason. Either that, or for some reason the cop decided to check him out in the vicinity of the tunnel. I wonder whether or not the patrol officer was aware of the CCW permit at the time he took the license, or only afterward?
The Fort McHenry tunnel passes underneath Baltimore Harbor and I have no doubt that the authorities there are watching everything that goes in and out of that tunnel.
Very strange set of circumstances there and definitely creepy as heck.
My guess is that his license plate was photographed and *AUTOMATICALLY SCANNED* at the tunnel entrance and by the time he was on the other side, he had been flagged as a "suspicious person" for some reason. Either that, or for some reason the cop decided to check him out in the vicinity of the tunnel. I wonder whether or not the patrol officer was aware of the CCW permit at the time he took the license, or only afterward?
The Fort McHenry tunnel passes underneath Baltimore Harbor and I have no doubt that the authorities there are watching everything that goes in and out of that tunnel.
Very strange set of circumstances there and definitely creepy as heck.
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If MA has it then they could give it to another state.
The real question is - do they or would they.
Putting the screws to the guy because he had a firearms related sticker on his car?
No way would the cops do something like that...
http://www.ammoland.com/2011/06/baltimore-police-issue-2nd-amendment-decal-warning/
Bloody hell......... WTF.
Some states have a "Declare" requirement (Michigan???) if you have a CPL/CCW/LTC, whether you are actively carrying or not.
I've asked an ex-JBT friend of mine how this scenario would play in Massachusetts, his advice was "No cop on the side of the road is going to care about a plastic card in your wallet, but you damned well better declare if you are actively carrying... And turn on the interior light, and keep your seatbelt on, and lace your hands through the steering wheel, and the first thing out of your mouth better be 'Officer, I have a License to Carry and I AM armed at this time'"
I guess in Maryland the "No cop on the side of the road" part of his analysis doesn't really apply.
If I was a cop and some shmuck just told me he was armed I would consider that a threat. If I am asked I will surely respond truthfully but to offer without being asked seems stupid.
MA doesn't require you to declare that you are carrying. I've been stopped in MA a couple times while I was carrying. The officer didn't ask. I didn't volunteer. He wrote out a warning, I thanked the officer and drove off.
Unless the officer tells you to get out of the car or you are carrying in a way that you can't get your license without flashing, then there simply isn't any reason to volunteer this information in MA. No good will come of it.
BTW, if the cop doesn't assume that you have a gun (whether you have an LTC or not), then he is a fool.
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Guy needs to tell his dumb wife to smarten the **** up.
That said I hope he files suit
That said I hope he files suit
StevieP
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Maryland cops enjoy pulling over and ticketing out-of-state drivers. It's a steady revenue stream, and doesn't affect (piss off) their own residents. I think most people would just as soon pay the ticket than have to return to Maryland to fight it.
Maybe they started out with some such shenanigans, and then it spiraled out of control from there (calling in for backup, emptying/searching the vehicle, 2 hours detained on the side of the road). But yeah, where does a Maryland officer get any information about a FL driver's CCW?
Maybe they started out with some such shenanigans, and then it spiraled out of control from there (calling in for backup, emptying/searching the vehicle, 2 hours detained on the side of the road). But yeah, where does a Maryland officer get any information about a FL driver's CCW?
Driving with the intent of exercising a right protected by the Constitution. That's a misdemeanor now. If you actually exercise a right, that's a felony. Welcome to Amerika, Comrade!
WallHack
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Funny they mention it, I regard anyone with a "Thin Blue Line" sticker or plate as a potential threat.Putting the screws to the guy because he had a firearms related sticker on his car?
No way would the cops do something like that...
http://www.ammoland.com/2011/06/baltimore-police-issue-2nd-amendment-decal-warning/
I thought the same thing
I was pulled over on 95 North in Maryland with Florida plates in 98. Wasn't speeding, no faulty equipment. Cop asked for license and reg, asked where I was headed (I was on my way to MA). She made me wait 15 minutes or so then told me to get lost, no ticket, no warning, no explanation. She had a serious attitude throughout the stop. JBT.
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