Tony,
I'm almost positive that was "Gun and Gun Parts", they're located somewhere Metro-West. I bought a Ruger 10/22 from them at last years show, got a great deal and they were great to deal with
W.Springfield. They have a website.
Jack
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Tony,
I'm almost positive that was "Gun and Gun Parts", they're located somewhere Metro-West. I bought a Ruger 10/22 from them at last years show, got a great deal and they were great to deal with
Hey guys, can anyone tell me who was running the big table against the back wall, to the right of the table with all the beef jerky? They have the rifles in racks with the model/price written on paper taped to the stocks. I saw a rifle I should have picked up while I was there, and I'd like to see if I can still track it down.
-TD
Tony,
I'm almost positive that was "Gun and Gun Parts", they're located somewhere Metro-West. I bought a Ruger 10/22 from them at last years show, got a great deal and they were great to deal with
OK, let me put this plainly: YOU CAN'T CARRY. At the door, you unload your piece, they put a wire tie through the action and keep the the ammo and/or magazine. You get it back when you leave. They have a sign up warning you about it and you WILL get your sorry ass arrested if you get caught. Darius' phone number is at his website: www.massgunlaw.com. Tell him I said hi.
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What is the legal justification for arresting you if you carry a concealled weapon at the show and get caught. I know of no MA law. I would like to know what I don't know. Thanks
Consider this:Trespass after notification, I think is the term.
It's clear that a trespass notice can ban someone from private property, but less obvious that a property owner can turn any behavior they wish into a crime by posting a notice of rules and that violation of any rule constitutes trespass.
But it's not clear if a crime has even been committed simply by "violating conditiions" if the individual has not been told they are not permitted entry, or told to leave - it would take a court decision to know for sure, and a decent attorney to know with any degree of reasonable confidence.You're absolutely right. To arrest or not would be totally up to the police.
But it's not clear if a crime has even been committed simply by "violating conditiions" if the individual has not been told they are not permitted entry, or told to leave - it would take a court decision to know for sure, and a decent attorney to know with any degree of reasonable confidence.
Exactly - in this case, the officer would be called over to whoever was carrying - and since the officer is the guy you go past to get IN, I'd imagine that he wouldn't be in a very forgiving mood, as you basically have already lied to him.You're absolutely right. To arrest or not would be totally up to the police. In the case of a gun show with a police officer or officers on scene, it might be a bit different, but maybe not.
Exactly - in this case, the officer would be called over to whoever was carrying - and since the officer is the guy you go past to get IN, I'd imagine that he wouldn't be in a very forgiving mood, as you basically have already lied to him.
Seems to me that a place of public business does not have the right to restrict your otherwise legal concealed carry of a weapon, or everyone would be doing it.
It's THEIR property, so they can set whatever rules they want. If you don't like, don't do business with them.
It's like this forum. Derek owns it and runs it. He pays whatever costs there are. He sets the rules as to what can and can't be discussed, what language can and can't be used, and who can and can't post. Those who don't want to or can't abide by those rules are dealt with.
I would think that people on this forum, of all people, would grasp the simple concept of private property rights.
It's this simple. The people who run gun shows, for whatever reason, generally don't allow loaded weapons by attendees. They put up a sign to that effect at the door. Whether they can have you arrested or not is not the issue. The issue is they don't want you to carry and they are literally running the show. If you can't live with that, then DON'T go to the show.
Gary
It is my understandingt that before anybody can be arrested for trespass at a place of business, since a place of business has an open invitation to the public, ( unlike your house) that someone with the authority to act in place of the owner must serve a written or verbal warning to be trespassed, then if that person refuses or comes back it is a violation of trespass law.
Again I try to discuss a topic to clarify an issue and I get the if you don't like it leave answer.
OK, so which part of there is a sign posted at the front door stating that if you bring in ammo you are trespassing isn't clear.
No one suggested you leave.
Being a LE officer, you should be able to tell US what statute applies.
Gary
Gary,
I couldn't go this time, so I didn't see the sign. Last time I was there I didn't see a sign,( years ago).
I always agree, go someplace and abide by the rules as stated, I was just wondering what justification there is and why all the anti-gun businesses don't do the same thing if it's legal.
Getting in trouble for carrying a GUN at a GUN show is like getting a speeding ticket while racing in Daytona 500
I am not advocating blowing off the sign and doing what I want.
I agree completely, don't like the policy, don't go. Want to go, be a resposible person and adhere to the policies.
However I was questioning the legality of the post that said 'you will be arrested.'
It is my understandingt that before anybody can be arrested for trespass at a place of business, since a place of business has an open invitation to the public, ( unlike your house) that someone with the authority to act in place of the owner must serve a written or verbal warning to be trespassed, then if that person refuses or comes back it is a violation of trespass law.
Again I try to discuss a topic to clarify an issue and I get the if you don't like it leave answer. Being a LE officer, I tend to want to know the justification for things instead of just someone's opinion. I was never advocating anyone should be a jerk and sneak a weapon into the show. I just wanted to know the justification for being charged with a crime if someone did it anyway like someone posted above.