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Moving isn't a possibility and I also wouldn't move just to get a different license.... I love where I live and my LTC is only a small part of my life.
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Dead to me....
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Moving isn't a possibility and I also wouldn't move just to get a different license.... I love where I live and my LTC is only a small part of my life.
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Not necessarily true, If he moves, sometimes the "new green town" licensing officer (or a gun lawyer) can convince them to expire the LTC. There are also some dirty hacks you can resort to, in order to get your LTC expired, as well, if you really need to.Brookline owns you until the current license expires. Serve your 6 year sentence like a man and try not to be a resident of Brookline when renewal time comes around.
Not necessarily true, If he moves, sometimes the "new green town" licensing officer (or a gun lawyer) can convince them to expire the LTC. There are also some dirty hacks you can resort to, in order to get your LTC expired, as well, if you really need to.
-Mike
Moving out of the state and establishing residency will expire a current LTC, correct? and then just move back into a green town. How long does it take to "establish residency" in another state? I dunno.
While I understand what you're saying, that's not quite a valid comparison... Who knows, maybe I'll get the "yes". It's not likely, but the vitriol and hostility in this thread is unexpected.
There are basically two types of towns that issue Restricted LTCs:
1. They do it as a "test" and if you stay out of trouble for x (x can equal 6 months to 6 years) amount of time, they will lift the restrictions (no cost) or do so upon renewal.
2. Hell NO! "Nobody in town x carries!" (unless very well connected or "important" via some secret evaluation process), we don't issue Unrestricted LTCs!
In more recent times, a Military Veteran was denied a LTC in Brookline because he once sat in the children's section of the library. Unsure if the same guy or different one was denied (IIRC) due to not returning an overdue library book.
Moving out of the state and establishing residency will expire a current LTC, correct? and then just move back into a green town. How long does it take to "establish residency" in another state? I dunno.
Not necessarily true, If he moves, sometimes the "new green town" licensing officer (or a gun lawyer) can convince them to expire the LTC. There are also some dirty hacks you can resort to, in order to get your LTC expired, as well, if you really need to.
-Mike
According to the news reports at the time, he was asked to leave the children's section by the librarian and peacefully refused. That resulted in a call to the PD and creation of a record in the Brookline database.IIRC the guy in Brookline was an Army officer, IIRC. It was more than just the "library incident".
Len, I'd also suggest there's a third category... the "Box" towns. If you fit in their box you get unrestricted. Sometimes requires documentation, sometimes doesn't. Most of these towns will also tell you up front what you need to qualify... eg, Boston and others have a sheet telling you what kind of stuff fits in the "Box" . Yes, sometimes the constraints of the box are "secret" too.
In some of these towns it might be trivially easy to fit inside certain boxes, either by doing or saying certain things, or having certain certifications... but that's the type of thing that never gets discussed openly in public for obvious reasons- if someone goes and brags about it on the internet, the "firing solution" for that might get cut off down the road.
-Mike
IIRC the guy in Brookline was an Army officer, IIRC. It was more than just the "library incident". I think part of the problem was his live in son was a piece of work (he either had a rap sheet associated with him, or the cops had been called to the residence for him doing something dumb once, and because he was related to the applicant, Brookline gave him shit about that, too. ) They were clearly scraping the bottom of the barrel hoping to find gold.
-Mike
You should just send a certified letter to the chief of police and request the restrictions lifted. If everyone here is in agreement that you will get denied, might as well ask and get denied so there is no question. And hey... if the licensing officer happens to be in a good mood and lifts it... MERRY CHRISTMAS! I lived in Newton and I asked for a restriction removal and they did it. New license in 3 weeks.
In Brookline, the LO is the Chief. He has final say on licensing. I sent in my letter and received a denial by mail. I followed up with an email to the sergeant that I spoke with, we'll see if I get any response.
We'll see what happens. I wonder if speaking with a lawyer would even make sense? If rumors I've read are accurate, people have sued the city and lost already regarding LTCs.
In my limited experience, suing the town over restrictions would be a guaranteed loss (the MA courts have consistently ruled that a restricted LTC is NOT a denial of your rights) and only worth it if you hope to force the town to incur legal expenses to defend themselves and thus discourage them from restricting people - hardly a likely scenario.
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Following up, I wrote a letter to my chief (Reading), explaining my history { Veteran, Weapons carrier for Mobility Team, Decorated Marksmen} as well as my reasoning (shouldn't be necessary as it's a constitutional right) and low and behold, my new, unrestricted license appeared in my mailbox today. I did write the letter two months go, and I never should've been restricted to begin with, but I'm honestly just happy he made the decision to expire my old license early and give me what I had applied for. Boston Strong
You should just send a certified letter to the chief of police and request the restrictions lifted. If everyone here is in agreement that you will get denied, might as well ask and get denied so there is no question. And hey... if the licensing officer happens to be in a good mood and lifts it... MERRY CHRISTMAS! I lived in Newton and I asked for a restriction removal and they did it. New license in 3 weeks.