Justice Kavanaugh

This whole situation is reaching epic levels. [And actually this is one of the best NES threads ever, IMO. I suppose it helps that they keep stoking the shitstorm with new things].

We have to keep in mind that this whole situations really comes down to placating the 3 R's that could possibly vote "no" if a sexual assault claim isn't treated fairly. If this is handled correctly, he might get a few D yes votes too.

It's pretty plain at this point that Feinstein manufactured the situation by holding and then leaking the original allegation at the last minute. The icing on the cake that it's a hitjob is the insane allegations of gang rape.

We're now a day and a half from the hearing and 3 days from a vote. The R's and Trump need to hold their shit together and avoid saying something stupid on twitter on to the media that will lose any of those 3 key votes.

Notice how this is not the top story on CNN anymore? They know it's a losing shitshow and are snaking away.
 
Whutmeworry said:
Breyer’s no spring chicken either. I believe he turns 80 this month...
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yeah, but they don't get the same shitty healthcare we peasants get. I'm sure that they'd keep him alive well into 100s. Look at Ruth, she is like 200? 300? Still vital and making good decisions as ever!
 
VetteGirlMA said:
Can you imagine the insanity levels if republicans keep the senate after the midterms and Ginsburg kicked the bucket in the very near future? The left in this country would be calling for nuking and carpet bombing of red parts of the country.
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We are in a Cold Civil War which will get hot the old woman dies.
 
We have our Interrogator for the great 2018 Battle of the Sexes -

"Rachel Mitchell is the sex crimes bureau chief for MCAO and is the GOP's choice to conduct the questioning of Kavanaugh and Christine Blasey Ford in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee."

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This really is becoming weirder and weirder by the second.

All partisan bullshit aside (and yes, I hope and expect he’ll squeak onto the bench), this whole circus has set a new low for the ways in which politics, #metoo, and social media are colliding. Complete with a porn star’s lawyer, a cryptic yearbook inscription, a false gang rape, a woman who can’t fly, and a 4chan prank.

Unbelievable. It would be hilarious if the stakes weren’t so high. Keep your powder dry.
 
Not sure if true - but if it is, then it's epic troll of the century award time..........


View: https://twitter.com/PolNewsupdates/status/1044656482795638784/photo/1


might have to zoom in on the image to read the text:

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Story is here too:

4Chan is claiming they BURNED Michael Avenatti with fake Kavanaugh witness!!!
 
71montess said:
Hes threatening 4chan.
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So, what, about a million young alt-right men with time on their hands and a wicked sense of humor?

Picton said:
This really is becoming weirder and weirder by the second.

All partisan bullshit aside (and yes, I hope and expect he’ll squeak onto the bench), this whole circus has set a new low for the ways in which politics, #metoo, and social media are colliding. Complete with a porn star’s lawyer, a cryptic yearbook inscription, a false gang rape, a woman who can’t fly, and a 4chan prank.

Unbelievable. It would be hilarious if the stakes weren’t so high. Keep your powder dry.
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It is really, really weird. I'm enjoying it. I am entertained.
 
whatluck said:
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While I'm sure that's what his intent is, it's also what the media is supposed to be doing: investigating and verifying. I have no interest in defending them, but at least CNN is trying to corroborate the bullshit.

Let me hear the recording of any actual calls that came from that voicemail before I pull out the tar and feathers.
 
new guy said:
What percentage of the country appreciates the gravity of what’s going down right now?
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well lets see, there are all the dudes on NES. They most of Hannity's audience. Then.....not so much. 20%....MAYBE?

I am just hoping the OTHER conservatives wake up enough to force their RINO senators to vote yes, and that we pick up some other moderates and some dems that are coming up for vote in a red state.

Don't forget, there is a strong rabid pack of women who HATE President Trump and anything he does....and are just looking for new "events" like this confirmation vote to bay at the moon.
 
Spanz said:
well lets see, there are all the dudes on NES. They most of Hannity's audience. Then.....not so much. 20%....MAYBE?

I am just hoping the OTHER conservatives wake up enough to force their RINO senators to vote yes, and that we pick up some other moderates and some dems that are coming up for vote in a red state.

Don't forget, there is a strong rabid pack of women who HATE President Trump and anything he does....and are just looking for new "events" like this confirmation vote to bay at the moon.
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Have YOU personally, (as in everyone here), contacted your senators and Grassley? Yeah, it's a small voice. But do it. Because like voting if you don't the other side is certainly making themselves heard and you're voluntarily excluding yourself.

Google your senators' contact pages and email them.
Maybe they'll just ignore you. Maybe you'll just get a form letter back.
But if you don't do it - you're definitely NOT getting counted.

Here's Grassley's contact page: Send Grassley Questions & Comments | Chuck Grassley
 
June4th said:
I'm gonna chip in a little high school biology for the whole MGTOW discussion. If you look at the basics of X and Y chromosomes, a boy gets his his Y chromosome from his father, and X from his mother (and that X could be from any of her four paternal or maternal grandparents). There you have it, the biological reason why male offspring are considered 'heir' in the traditional sense, because the X chromosome of the family bloodline can be lost easily in as few as two generations and the Y never does.

The importance of bloodline is pronounced theatrically in the Game of Throne series, and I had such sadness seeing the heirs of the Starks got wiped out one after another. In animal kingdom, males fight and sometimes to death for the right to mate, reproduce and prolong its bloodline.

To declare Going The Other Way is waving white flag and voluntarily losing the very basic biological fight for producing heirs. Do it as you will, but not me, not my male offspring. When you give up the fight, you deserve everything that comes to the loser.

To all the good young guys on this forum: if you haven't yet, go find a good woman and have a bunch of babies.

There, my evil patriarchal post of the day.
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Good technical points to keep in mind.

Most of the MGTOW stuff I've run across deal with the practical and day to day matters of getting "involved" with women. They talk about dealing with women at work - unfounded sexual harassment claims - rape claims - divorce and the financial impacts on men - and female behavior such as hypergamy. The real underlying message the MGTOW guys I've seen are trying to get across is: stop believing the fairy tale you've been fed about women and start looking at the reality. They're not all a bunch of princesses and as a male you should really think long and hard about how being involved with a woman can completely screw your life over. The court system, workplace rules, and a lot of social convention - is completely against you. Women like this Ford chick are most DEFINITELY out there - and can utterly ruin your life up to and including getting your ass dumped in jail if you are not aware of the games that can get played.

In regards to your point about passing on your genes - another point these guys make is that it's a typical behavior for men's children to be taken away from them by the courts. So yeah - you're passing on your genes , but now your heir is being raised by a women who felt it was ok to take his son away from his father. The gene might have been passed - but what kind of "heir" do you think you're going to get out of that situation?

I read this recently , but I don't remember exactly where: women have been weaponized. We can argue whether the Frankfurt School Marxism came first or the feminism came first - but the fact remains that there's a bad dynamic going on. This Kavanaugh hearing clusterf*** is proof positive of that.

Circling back to point about passing down genes: One of the MGTOW guys I've watched on Youtube has made the observation that technology has brought us to the point where women are less and less vital to the reproductive process. He has made the point that - and this ties directly in with your point about genes: Men have the X and the Y chromosome. Women do not. In the past women were the more valuable member of the species as far as reproduction goes - because they carry the babies. BUT - in a more technological future - where such things as artificial wombs might be possible ............ MEN become the more valuable gender because they carry BOTH X and Y. He makes the point that men have a long history of fixing problems with technological solutions - and that if the current trend keeps going , women might just be arguing themselves out of a job.

The other point that I've seen made is: If getting yourself an heir is important - and you're a successful man who makes decent money - then it's probably less expensive to just get an egg donor, and get a gestational carrier to carry the baby - and get a kid free and clear of ANY connection to a women other than the egg donor and carrier (which are contractual relationships covered by law so you are protected) ............ than to risk the possibility of getting involved with a woman who has a good chance of going off the rails at some point and costing you WAY more money than the egg donor/carrier route would cost (which is about $120k BTW).

I can guarantee you that now that female craziness is now front and center in the public eye - this whole thing is FAR from over. The Kavanaugh hearing is going to have wide reaching implications.
 
there are many things that bother me about this late accusation of fords but one in particular.

She mentioned several times and was quoted by her lawyer that she felt like she was going to die during the alleged incident.

It has been well documented that women sometimes do not report sex crimes for a multitude of reasons...

However, I have not heard of many cases where a person tried to kill another and the alleged incident went unreported.

So he supposedly committed two crimes against this person and she didn't think to tell a soul...highly suspect to me.

Now assume something happened between the two...obviously she didn't think enough about whatever it might have been until now. So obviously whatever might have happened if anything at all wasn't traumatic enough for her to report it to anyone at the time and then she was able to live with it for however many years. So I doubt she felt violated and I doubt she felt her life was in danger.

This is purely political and nothing else.
 
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Cowgirlup said:
This is the most retarded post I have read from you. By your validation of their "logic" then you also agree all men are scum.
Also, anyone who doesn't confront a liberal at every turn might as well be one. Anyone who doesn't show up at all the 2A rallies might as well be an anti. If someone isn't blowing up a clinic (you know the ones I mean) then you support what is done there.

Conservatives by and large are not confrontational psychos. Out shouting crazy people really doesn't work. There are other ways to win. The thousands of women in stupid hats were ridiculed by the rest of us. Lots of women voted Trump.

I really wonder who F'd you up for you to be like this. Nearly every thing you post has a reference to how awful women are etc.
Good Lord, take a chill pull or start drinking or something.[cheers]
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You're not getting it.

Feminists have ALWAYS run around pushing their political agenda based on a GENDER - which is female. As such - they are making their claims to power based on nothing more than GENDER. Since that's YOUR gender - you're included there. I most definitely - am not.

This is a distinctly different claim to power than any of the examples you used: liberals, anti-abortionists, and the gun rights crowd.

Because feminists base their power on nothing more than gender - they're more equivalent to things like the Black Power Movement - which make their arguments based on race - or the situation when nations go to war. Since everybody likes Nazis - let's use that one as an example. The Nazi party got hold of power in Germany. They took over the country. Many people were likely against Hitler. The Nazis talked about German this and German that. Germans were put in uniform - many of whom were likely against Hitler. Didn;t matter at that point - because there was a war - and they were wearing the uniform.

Once the shooting starts - the guys on the other side - start shooting ALL OF THE GERMANS. You're in a German uniform - your ass gets shot. You're a German living in a German city - you get your ass fire bombed. Nobody gives two shits any more about whatever internal dissension there might have been - you're German so you burn.

The only way this situation changes - is if there is a revolt within the ranks. Now you've got civil war. What you've also got is the recognition outside the sphere of Germany that all Germans are not the same.

In case you haven't been paying attention: conservatives are losing. Feminists and commies are now screwing with the workings of the highest reaches of government. Conservative women are losing. In case you haven't been paying attention - there was a huge amount of hate spewing out of the feminist left for "traitorous" women who voted for Trump. I read numerous articles about how it was white married women who are now an enemy of feminism - because they're siding with men.

Ever heard this phrase? : You may not be interested in war - but war is interested in you. Go look it up. It was a commie who said it BTW.

This is why I say: This IS your problem. Until sane women start beating down the feminist lunatics - you're all going to suffer. Jordan Peterson hit the nail on the head in that video I posted earlier in this thread when he made the observation that men can't fix this problem. Ergo - this is a female issue.... ergo - this is YOUR issue. Sorry - but the feminists have made it that way - only women can un-make it.

I've been paying attention to feminist lunacy for something like 35 years now. I'd be willing to bet I've read more hard core feminist literature than anybody here.

Why?

For the same reason I pay attention to the gun banners and the leftists: because when somebody tells me that they are my enemy - I listen to them.
 
drgrant said:
Some will opine "why don't good women shout down the feminazis? etc." Because they don't give a shit, and have better things to do than get concerned over what some crazy broad (likely outside of their circle) that they have nothing in common with, other than their gender, is doing. They go out of their way to avoid having crazy broads as friends, too. They also don't fear alienation by men just because they're female, either. They know that by not being irrational psychopaths, that if they're patient they can probably get a decent guy without too much trouble.


-Mike
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Re: "why don't good women shout down the feminazis? etc." Because they don't give a shit, and have better things to do than get concerned over what some crazy broad

This exact point was discussed in the Jordan/Paglia video I posted earlier:




Cowgirlup is all upset about the points I made. She's not paying attention IMHO.

I think people should pay attention to areas where threats to their life can come from.

NES is chock full of people worried about being mugged, burglarized, home invaded - etc. Yet I don't know one single person who has had any of these things happen to them.

I know MULTIPLE men - who's life has been made miserable by women and the court system. A court system that BTW - enforces laws pushed into places by feminists.

So exactly which threat should I pay attention to? The outlier - or the one that I have seen personally up and close - and is now wreaking havoc at the highest levels of government?


I don't think people are really paying attention much to what is going on.
 
Christine Blasey Ford - anyone know where she is? She is still seeking to limit the press in the room and even limit outlets (cough - FOX - cough). Is she in the plains yet on her car trip or is she still in California?

I really want her to testify - none of this filtered crap; I want to see what she says and I want to see what he says and then I can decided who I believe. Which is why I think she will be a no show or if she shows she will make a statement then take the 5th like Lois Lerner did.


Feminism - not to get too far off track:
Do you find it funny how woman A who divorced her husband because he was a scumbag and now is going out with woman B ex-husband thinks that he is great and woman B got too much in the divorce?

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Do you find it funny how woman B who divorced her husband because he was a scumbag and now is going out with woman A ex-husband thinks that he is great and woman A got too much in the divorce?

I've yet to hear of a woman who thinks she got enough, and yet to hear of a woman who thinks the X got too much.
 
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The Yale thing is pure bullshit.

The Georgetown Prep thing is a coincidence. Rabid leftists found a woman who got felt up at a party in HS which came out in her marriage counseling. Said leftists decided to embellish the experience to implicate Kavanaugh, with no intention of her having to swear a statement of any kind or testify, just to scream "rape" and point a finger (I predict she will not show tomorrow and there will be a vote Friday).

The intent of the left was for Kavanaugh's inevitable confirmation to have an asterisk next to it so they could get the crazies to set themselves on fire over it ahead of the election.

And how fitting that the tip of the spear, the Standard Bearer of the Democrats is a Porn Lawyer who just got punked about a third victim from nut-job 4chan.
 
Squire said:
The Yale thing is pure bullshit.

The Georgetown Prep thing is a coincidence. Rabid leftists found a woman who got felt up at a party in HS which came out in her marriage counseling. Said leftists decided to embellish the experience to implicate Kavanaugh, with no intention of her having to swear a statement of any kind or testify, just to scream "rape" and point a finger (I predict she will not show tomorrow and there will be a vote Friday).

The intent of the left was for Kavanaugh's inevitable confirmation to have an asterisk next to it so they could get the crazies to set themselves on fire over it ahead of the election.

And how fitting that the tip of the spear, the Standard Bearer of the Democrats is a Porn Lawyer who just got punked about a third victim from nut-job 4chan.
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I'd like to see her testify.....on camera. You don't have to be under oath to be convicted of lying to cops, congress, the senate or the FBI.
I hope she testifies and is then arrested and lead out in cuffs.
 
calsdad said:
Re: "why don't good women shout down the feminazis? etc." Because they don't give a shit, and have better things to do than get concerned over what some crazy broad

This exact point was discussed in the Jordan/Paglia video I posted earlier:




Cowgirlup is all upset about the points I made. She's not paying attention IMHO.

I think people should pay attention to areas where threats to their life can come from.

NES is chock full of people worried about being mugged, burglarized, home invaded - etc. Yet I don't know one single person who has had any of these things happen to them.

I know MULTIPLE men - who's life has been made miserable by women and the court system. A court system that BTW - enforces laws pushed into places by feminists.

So exactly which threat should I pay attention to? The outlier - or the one that I have seen personally up and close - and is now wreaking havoc at the highest levels of government?


I don't think people are really paying attention much to what is going on.
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I know MULTIPLE men - who's life has been made miserable by women and the court system. A court system that BTW - enforces laws pushed into places by feminists.

My daughter told me that she wanted to live with me when she was fourteen.
At that time she split her time in my home and my ex-wife's home per divorce agreement.
I made sure that she was certain of this, then I hired an extremely good attorney.

After a very lengthy court battle, several changes of attorneys, a couple of ad-litem appointments,
and a *lot* of money - the court awarded me full custody of my daughter per her wishes.

Her mother was given very limited visitation, including restricted phone calls and she paid me child support.

Women don't always win. Sometimes the children win.
 
mibro said:
I'm pretty sure he's been married with children for decades. I'd even go out on a limb and guess Calsdad has a son...named Cal.

Could be wrong though. Maybe Cal's a cat. I dunno.

But IIRC you're also a casualty of the free-for-all gender wars.
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Just for the record - I've been with the same woman for going on 23 years now. Sorry wrong limb - Cal (Calvin) - was a cat. I picked that screen name probably 20 years ago now. I was just looking for something different than the typical BigSchlong69 type names it seems a lot of guys would go for. And I've got a kid - on the way.

Re: feminism. I fell down the rabbit hole with feminism more than 35 years ago in college. Like a lot of guys of college age - I was trying to figure out women. Probably stupidly - I figured I'd study feminism to try and figure that shit out. So I dug - and dug deep. I spent a number of semesters spending late nights in the library stacks tracking down obscure women's studies journals , reading the writings of hard core feminists like Andrea Dworkin, reading psychology, anthropology , family law - etc. I'm not talking about magazine articles - I'm talking about scholarly journals where "intellectuals" publish their papers. And I have continued to do so ever since. Scholarly papers are what set the foundation for what gets taught in school - and what has been taught to college age students over the last few decades is what has set the stage for the lunacy we're seeing right here in the present. Christine Blasey Ford is a psychology professor - and a radical feminist leftist if all the accounts I've read are to be believed. So she's a perfect example of how this stuff is all related, and how it filters out into society at large. The online student reviews of her back this up from what I have read.
 
allen-1 said:
I know MULTIPLE men - who's life has been made miserable by women and the court system. A court system that BTW - enforces laws pushed into places by feminists.

My daughter told me that she wanted to live with me when she was fourteen.
At that time she split her time in my home and my ex-wife's home per divorce agreement.
I made sure that she was certain of this, then I hired an extremely good attorney.

After a very lengthy court battle, several changes of attorneys, a couple of ad-litem appointments,
and a *lot* of money - the court awarded me full custody of my daughter per her wishes.

Her mother was given very limited visitation, including restricted phone calls and she paid me child support.

Women don't always win. Sometimes the children win.
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I know three men who have had similar experiences. In all cases it was multi year nightmare for them. And - as you said VERY expensive.

The problem Ive seen is that a lot of men simply don't have the personality, or constitution to pursue it the way you did. So they get run over.
 
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PaulR said:
This whole charade now is absolutely unreal.
I'm so upset with the political system I'm fit to be tied.
This man has an impeccably perfect record, and countless lifelong close friends and coworkers behind him and his life is being ruined by this complete nonsense.
I can't even bear to watch any of this complete nonsense anymore.
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And now you understand why I talk so much about feminism.

That is what has created this dynamic.

As you pointed out : a perfect record, countless friends who will testify to that fact.

And yet STILL SCREWED.

Tell me how this isn't some sort of existential threat.
 

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