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Anyone think this attempt should be sufficient to have his LTC revoked?
Drgrant,
In a case like this possession means squat, as the act alone is a felony.
Again as far as slam dunk, WRKO appears to record Finneran's Forum because they have audio archives for it. Can't beat the 'defendant' admitting he did the crime over the air.
With a lot of commotion in the Northeast about Gun Trafficking it may prove to our advantage in that the USDA or ADA will see it as a 'we take firearms laws seriously and no one is above them' deal.
But if we sit on our collective asses as gun owners and let it happen, we are truly in a sorry state of being and should just give up our right to own a firearm because we already have the defeatist attitude.
Anyone think this attempt should be sufficient to have his LTC revoked?
Anyone think this attempt should be sufficient to have his LTC revoked?
...why can't his CLEO revoke his license, for being "unsuitable?" I would be less surprised by far less reason to do so than bragging on air about attempting to commit a felony. Where does this clown live? Can someone alert his chief? Perhaps we can use their own weaponry against them, and wouldn't that make an interesting story?
...why can't his CLEO revoke his license, for being "unsuitable?" I would be less surprised by far less reason to do so than bragging on air about attempting to commit a felony. Where does this clown live? Can someone alert his chief? Perhaps we can use their own weaponry against them, and wouldn't that make an interesting story?
**********Rosenthal lives in Newton... a very difficult town to get an LTC A ALP in. Not necessarily a problem for him but he has a friendly CLEO on the anti side.
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Rosenthal has friends in high places. Coupe Deval, Mumbles, The Globe. You all should know Liberals in this state can get away w/murder(Kennedy) and lying because they are trying to protect the public.
If officials investigated him I`m sure he would lie and said he made the story up to illustrate his crusade. POS!
Live free and die
By Steve Bailey, Globe Columnist | November 30, 2005
WEST LEBANON, N.H. -- In the manic environment of the first shopping weekend after Thanksgiving, the competition was fierce. We hesitated and lost out on a lovely, slightly used grenade launcher, bargain priced in tax-free New Hampshire at $190.
Not to worry. The dozens of dealers at the Fireside Inn gun show came well armed. Andrew Heggie, a Randolph police officer, spotted a Bushmaster, similar to the rifle he carried in two tours of duty in Afghanistan. And he found an AK-47, the same gun the enemy carried. There were military sniper rifles and an M-16-type ''machine pistol" capable of firing off 100 rounds before reloading -- the kind of gun only an angry high school student could love. Saturday night specials were cheap and plentiful.
In the end, we settled on a .38-caliber revolver, a trashy little thing popular with thugs in cities like Boston. Made by Connecticut's Charter 2000 Inc. in New England's ''Gun Valley," the revolver retails for $349, but my fellow New Hampshire shopper, Walter Belair, picked it up, cash and carry, for just $240. It took Belair, a former prison guard, less than 20 minutes to fill out the federal forms and get approved over the phone. It took me longer to buy a refrigerator at Sears a few weeks ago.
But this is New Hampshire, the ''Live Free or Die" state, where no gun license is required, and there is no limit on what a resident can buy.
''I can buy all the guns I want," Belair says. And he could sell his new .38 down the street, too, no questions asked.
Massachusetts has the toughest gun laws in the nation, but the streets of Boston haven't felt this dangerous in years. Increasingly, say police, guns are coming from Northern New England, where the gun laws are weaker. Gun shows, a billion-dollar business, are one source of guns: There are an estimated 5,000 gun shows like this one around the country every year, and many of them, unlike the one here, include so-called private sellers that require no background checks at all.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives found that gun shows rank second, after corrupt firearms distributors, in the number of illegally trafficked guns that turn up in its investigations, according to a 2000 report. The National Rifle Association has suggested that ''hundreds of thousands of guns" are sold at gun shows with no background checks. The weapons used in the Columbine High School massacre, which left 14 dead, came from gun shows.
Dramatically reducing the flow of illegal guns would be a relatively straightforward matter if it were not for the lunatic gun lobby and its political enablers. What is needed is uniform national gun laws that require background checks for all gun purchases whether from licensed dealers or from private individuals. In addition, we need to limit gun purchases for individuals to one per month, a policy that has proven effective in Virginia. Question: How many legitimate buyers need more than a dozen guns a year?
Thirty thousand people a year -- 82 a day -- are killed by guns every year in this country. Every two years more Americans die of firearms than all the American soldiers killed in eight years in Vietnam. And yet there is more accountability for dog owners than gun owners; at least dog owners have to have a license. ''If there were white kids in the suburbs dying, we would end gun trafficking," says Heggie, the Randolph cop.
Nationally there are 45 gun shows scheduled for next weekend alone, according to the Big Show Journal, a trade magazine. If you missed last weekend's show in West Lebanon, you'll have another chance before Christmas on Dec. 17 and 18 at the Rockingham Race Park in Salem. And there are four more New Hampshire shows before spring ends. Children under 12 are admitted free.
Something to line a birdcage with? Or train a puppy - it works well for both.Its the globe, what do you expect.
If anyone heard this segment on Finneran's morning broadcast...
Did anyone on this forum actually HEAR..listen to...this broadcast?
If so, I need to speak with you pronto.
Please contact me off list ASAP at [email protected]
...but only if you actually listened to the broadcast in question, on Tuesday July 10 on the Finneran show.
I'm the senior editor of GUN WEEK.
I'd bet you could call the station and get a copy of the tape, or a transcript.
They have pod casts, but my company filters the site. Check here for audio:
http://www.wrko.com/pages/326054.ph...ntent_search.php?contentType=4&resultCount=20
Matt
The story broken by Gun Owners' Action League concerning the illegal gun purchase made by John Rosenthal of Stop Handgun Violence has gained national attention. Today, the Second Amendment Foundation has asked that the BATFE investigate the situation. The following is a news release from SAF.
Listen to Rosenthal admit to the straw purchase: http://wrko.podzinger.com/viewMedia...37&submitted=1&e=7717729&index=1&seek=462.729
NEWS RELEASE
SAF ASKS FEDERAL INVESTIGATION OF ALLEGED STRAW PURCHASE BY ANTI-GUNNER
BELLEVUE, WA – The Second Amendment Foundation is calling upon the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to open a criminal investigation into what may be a publicly-admitted straw purchase of a handgun in New Hampshire involving the head of a Massachusetts anti-gun organization and a columnist for the Boston Globe.
SAF Founder Alan Gottlieb said today that remarks made by John Rosenthal, head of Stop Handgun Violence and a co-founder of the anti-gun American Hunting and Shooting Association, and Globe columnist Steve Bailey during a segment on WRKO AM on July 10 “strongly suggest they were involved in an illegal gun purchase.”
“Bailey and Rosenthal traveled from Massachusetts to New Hampshire where Rosenthal reportedly asked a dealer at a gun show whether he could buy a handgun,” Gottlieb said. “When the dealer learned Rosenthal was a Massachusetts resident, he declined to sell him a gun. At that point, Rosenthal allegedly asked if a companion, who was a New Hampshire resident, could buy the gun and the dealer agreed. Rosenthal, in an interview with Gun Week, claimed that the dealer clearly knew this was a straw sale.
“The irony here,” he observed, “is that Rosenthal has tried to portray this dealer as having conducted a straw sale, but what he is also describing is a straw purchase. There are two sides to any such crime, and the buyer – and the person who initiated that purchase – would be just as criminally liable as the seller of the gun.
“We think federal authorities should find out where that gun is now, who ultimately paid for it, and whether Rosenthal, Bailey and the New Hampshire resident participated in a conspiracy to conduct this transaction,” Gottlieb noted.
“Private citizens, whether they run anti-gun organizations, write for newspapers or happen to be the anti-gun mayor of New York City, cannot conduct straw purchases or hire someone else to do it and then claim it was in the public interest,” Gottlieb concluded. “We believe a crime, or multiple crimes, may have been committed here, and we encourage the BATF to investigate. If it turns out Rosenthal, Bailey and their companion did break the law, we expect them to be prosecuted.”
Freedom Equals Death
It has been a while since I've read such a pathetic anti-gun column as this one. From the business section of the Boston Globe, comes this hyperbole-laden, Chicken Little-inspired, "The Sky is Falling" piece of blather from Globe columnist, Steve Bailey. You can almost taste the irrationality, fear and hatred in his words.
Yes, folks, according to this enlightened "progressive" thinker, freedom now equals death. I was woefully unaware of that until now - must have missed the memo. Thank you, Mr. Bailey for duly enlightening me as to this stunning new development.
WEST LEBANON, N.H. -- In the manic environment of the first shopping weekend after Thanksgiving, the competition was fierce. We hesitated and lost out on a lovely, slightly used grenade launcher, bargain priced in tax-free New Hampshire at $190.
I'll assume, based on his vilification here of "grenade launchers", that Mr. Bailey would also advocate the banning of small, single engine aircraft, seeing as they could be used to drop explosives on innocent children playing outside. A grenade launcher without a grenade is a metal pipe. I guess you could beat someone to death with an unloaded grenade launcher, but I suspect that's not the point he's trying to make here.
Not to worry. The dozens of dealers at the Fireside Inn gun show came well armed.
Gun dealers at a gun show? Dozens of them? With guns? AAAGGHHH!!! THE HUMANITY!!! I'm shocked the gun show didn't register at least a half-dozen homicides that day. Yet, none of these guns managed to jump up and kill ANYONE? Who would want to go to a gun show to buy such defective firearms?
Andrew Heggie, a Randolph police officer, spotted a Bushmaster, similar to the rifle he carried in two tours of duty in Afghanistan.
Yeah, just like a Honda Civic with a low front spoiler, a whale tail on the back and a bunch of "Type R Racing" stickers on it is "similar" to a Formula One race car.
And he found an AK-47, the same gun the enemy carried.
Doubtful. Even if it was a full-auto AK, the sale and possession of such a weapon would still be highly regulated by existing federal law. But, why let those silly facts ruin a good fit of hysteria. You've got uneducated people to scare, damn it!
There were military sniper rifles...
Clearly, we must act now to ban these excessively accurate firearms.... FOR THE CHILDRENTM!!! The world would clearly be a be much safer place if all guns were made to shoot at least a foot high and to the left at a distance of 50 yards. Besides, who, other than a crazed, maniacal killer, needs a rifle that can actually deliver a round to its intended target?
...and an M-16-type "machine pistol"...
Not sure what that might be, exactly, but it sure sounds scary. I think I peed my pants just thinking about it.
...capable of firing off 100 rounds before reloading...
Unlike any firearm that can accept a 100-round magazine.
...the kind of gun only an angry high school student could love.
When did I become an "angry high school student"? Someone has got to get my name on the distribution list for these important memos I seem to be missing on a regular basis.
Saturday night specials were cheap and plentiful.
What? You mean poor people are actually allowed to exercise their Constitutional rights in some parts of the country? Get me Senator Kennedy on the phone! Now, damn it! This loophole must be closed at once! How dare the peasantry demand equality!
In the end, we settled on a .38-caliber revolver, a trashy little thing popular with thugs in cities like Boston.
And liberal, gun-grabbing senators from San Francisco. But again, why let reality interfere with a good fear-laden rant?
Made by Connecticut's Charter 2000 Inc. in New England's "Gun Valley," the revolver retails for $349, but my fellow New Hampshire shopper, Walter Belair, picked it up, cash and carry, for just $240. It took Belair, a former prison guard, less than 20 minutes to fill out the federal forms and get approved over the phone. It took me longer to buy a refrigerator at Sears a few weeks ago.
And that's a relevant comparison, how, exactly?
Read the whole thing.
It's amazing people like this can muster up the courage to leave the house in the morning without suffering a fatal fear-induced heart attack.
...capable of firing off 100 rounds before reloading...
Unlike any firearm that can accept a 100-round magazine.
I've been thinking about this for awhile now and while I disagree strongly with John Rosenthal's and Steve Bailey's points of view they are allowed to have them - despite the fact they are factually incorrect and wrong.
What I want to propose is this. Since the ATF has recovered the revolver and it was in the possession of the original purchaser...what's all the fuss about?
Think about it logically for a moment.
Steve Bailey only wrote about how easy it was to obtain a firearm. You can get one in MA in 20 minutes worth of paperwork as well...no big deal. He implied a straw purchase for the entertainment of his uneducated audience and the Boston Globe agenda. Since he did not - apparently - take possession nor take it across State lines to MA...his point is mute. He did not conduct a straw purchase in the true sense of the word. Instead he faked one and then wrote about it.
So Steve Bailey is a fake and his article is a fake. My point being if he persists in stating that he achieved a straw purchase then he should be prosecuted. If he recants his article, publically apologizes for faking in a recant of his column in the Boston Globe, then we should all let him off the hook. If not, then like I said...prosecute everyone involved.
Thoughts?