Jews Finally Waking UP?

All too often people forget. Judaism is a RELIGION, not a race. Semites are people genetically similar in makeup, generally considered to include the countries surrounding the Mediterranean. So Jews, Arabs, Northern Africa, Italians, Sicilians, maybe some southern Spain folks also. Also, a RELIGION is something that one can convert to. Once CANNOT change race. So a Jew can "become" Catholic, Buddhist, or Taoist for that matter. But an Irishman CANNOT become Polish, nor can an Asian become Hispanic, or a Negroid (VERY specifically chosen term) change to Caucasoid.

My brother married an Italian Catholic girl. She decided that she liked a different denomination when they moved. Their boys are both raised and Baptized as Christians. IDGAF which version, they're my NEPHEWS first, religion isn't at issue, but DAMN sure they aren't "half Jewish". Seriously, what does that even MEAN???

Me? Family from Russia, Poland, England, Austria that I know of. What am I? AMERICAN. Period. Full stop.
 
greencobra said:
a lot of posts are pretty insulting. i'm not jewish but how dare you non-jews speculate how jews feel and tell them how they should feel and what they should be doing. clean your own houses first.
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I assume you were serious and not being sarcastic.

"How dare you" is a bit unAmerican, it implies a master/servant relationship if you want the truth. The British Lord has no need or desire to be understood by the help. I'm well familiar with that kind of class structure.
 
rwl1955 said:
Hundreds of Jewish people in America have rushed to undertake training to learn how to shoot, after an attack on a synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA on October 27 that killed 11 people. A private company offering "Israeli tactical shooting techniques" has been inundated with hundreds of requests in the days following the shooting.

"There is no question that Jews are under threat in America. Would you say to soldiers on the front line, 'just lay down your guns and let the enemy kill you?' No. So Jews need to be armed," said Yonatan Stern, the founder of Cherev Gidon Israeli Tactical Training Academy, which offers classes in Pennsylvania and Arizona. Stern, a former officer of the Israel Defense Forces, created the academy six years ago, predicting, he says, that there would be attacks on the Jewish community in the United States.

The shooting at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh was the deadliest attack on Jews in America’s history. Stern says that his organisation has received more requests for training from Jews in the days since the attack than in the entire time the academy has been running.After Pittsburgh attack, course offers gun training against shooters in synagogues
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It's about time. Near 100% backing of anti Semitic, moslem Obama, by American Jews. This will still be a small percentage of their population....most will still be uber liberal. I am still in awe of the Jews who flocked to Obama. President Trump has been the most pro Israeli US leader ever....still universally hated by American Jews. I don't get it. Israelis certainly understand the importance of the U.S. Presidents backing.
 
There are a couple of Jewish web sites that answer all these questions. It's almost as if they think gentiles don't read them. I look at Forward quite a bit. The bottom line is for liberal Jews hating President Trump is more important than supporting Israel.

Donald Trump, Meet America’s Jews. They Are Protesting Your Hate.

American Jews by and large are liberals — pro-immigrant, pro-LGBTQ, pro-choice. It’s the twisted reason that Robert Bowers gave for murdering them. As Alex Kane movingly put it, Bowers and his white supremacist brethren are actually right about one thing: “Most American Jews stand in support of American Muslims, opposed the Trump administration’s cruel Muslim travel ban, and welcome in refugees from Muslim-majority countries.”

So there you have it, if you choose to read and understand. It ain't complicated.
 
More of the same idiotic liberal dogma.....whoever is too stupid to discern the difference between ILLEGAL vs legal refugees just spouting rhetoric. President Trump has done nothing but help LGBQ... whatever it is. The moslem ban, wasn't just moslems. It was the countries with terrorist ties. Pretty weak argument for people trying to explain backing and helping people who would like to see them banished from the planet.
 
Daniel MacDonald said:
More of the same idiotic liberal dogma.....whoever is too stupid to discern the difference between ILLEGAL vs legal refugees just spouting rhetoric. President Trump has done nothing but help LGBQ... whatever it is. The moslem ban, wasn't just moslems. It was the countries with terrorist ties. Pretty weak argument for people trying to explain backing and helping people who would like to see them banished from the planet.
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There's no ban. The President simply argues that the law be followed and that people who wish to come here be vetted. Gun owners are vetted to death, what is the argument for not doing the same for those coming from countries with strong terrorist ties?
 
One’s view of the world is a direct result of our individual circumstances, Jews or not!

If you grew up in socialism you learn not to trust government, appreciate capitalism and support a free-market economy.
If you watch a mob intervene in 1-1 fight to make sure that “no Jew wins a street fight”, you begin to believe in existence of anti-semitism (or anti-minority).
If you lived in Israel, served in IDF and experienced first-hand that some of your “neighbors” just want “to kill you” (not peace), you appreciate the need for strong military and your individual need for self-defense.

That’s all I have to say about that... :)
 
I’ve heard comments in NJ (home office) about cops at Jewish Synagogues but none at Catholic Churches. Anyone wants to pay for details to stand guard can put down cash, right?
 
Laura said:
I don't hate anyone, but the Jews - at least in the U.S. are largely sheep, though some are capable of having independent thought in support of Israel. Sadly, they aren't the majority.
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From my experience with fellow American Jews, you are correct, most are indeed sheep that like to be led rather than lead.

kalash said:
People just need a scapegoat for their own failures and Jews are an easy and popular choice.
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I think that there is a lot of truth to this.
 
MaverickNH said:
I’ve heard comments in NJ (home office) about cops at Jewish Synagogues but none at Catholic Churches. Anyone wants to pay for details to stand guard can put down cash, right?
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Up until recently, and anecdotally only Black churches, most Christian-denomination churches haven't been routinely targeted so likely didn't statistically expect to need "protection". Jewish temples/synagogues generally only seem to have a police presence during major holidays, and I suspect that's also part traffic/part security, not wholly protection. Personally, I wouldn't consider that much of a target hardener. I think they're more deterrence than defense. Both are valuable, but I think 4, 5, 6 CC congregation members scattered randomly would provide more defense than a uniform cop standing in the parking lot.
 
I was attacked on another forum and told I should leave the country for suggesting that like the German Jews of the 1930s, Amercian Jews think "It can't happen here?" It can happen anywhere, and not just to Jews.


Rockrivr1 said:
Good. It's unfortunate in that they started to become complacent in the mentality that it wouldn't happen in America. Nothing and nowhere is safe and their brethren in Israel has known this from day one. Time for them to take a page out of Israel's playbook. Time for all of America to realize this is a war and unfortunately a religious one at that.
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Radtekk said:
In general, people dislike/fear/hate "other". No logic to it. Think Hutu/Tutsi, Protestant/Catholic, Shia/Sunni, the caste system in India, the list goes on and on.

There's an old Star Trek episode where the black/white guy is chasing the white/black guy through the galaxy. They're both spilt black and white side to side on opposite sides, kinda like the old bakery cookies.

When "other" has practices that you don't understand, or WANT to understand, it's easy to make them scapegoats. I grew up in middle class suburbia in NJ, fairly decent not terribly anti-semitic or racist area outside Princeton. Most families Dad worked, Mom didn't or just part time. So generally educated, above average, blah blah blah. Can't begin to count how many times I got asked where my horns were.

Being surprised that a low education, low income, low information group of people gets manipulated by leaders who derive power from mobs is silly. A well spoken demagogue can almost always manipulate a group with that demographic.

Why do Jews tend to suck for .gov will protect me if I give them power? Truly, I have no idea. Down through the ages "we" have been vilified, oppressed, and killed indiscriminately, yet we continue to fail to learn our lesson.

There's a toast: "They tried to kill us, they're dead, let's eat" that sort of sums it up. Kinda fatalistic. I think it SHOULD be "They f***ed with us, we f***ed back HARD. They're dead. Gonna be a while before anybody else tries."
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Why do you think there is no logic to people hating each other?

This is the kind of stoopid shit that lefties say all the time.

If there was no logical sense to it - then why is it so prevalent?
 
Anti gun Jews are failing or refusing to learn from history. So are anti gun homosexuals. Stating the obvious for most here: civilian disarmament is a critical tipping point into tyranny.

It's not just guns though. The people who support civilian disarmament also generally support state socialism. They have a belief that somehow we will magically get socialist dictatorship "right" and everyone will be happy, well fed, and cared for.
 
Oh Christ, here we go again. It's not about jews or homos, it's about ALL of us. You pontificators sound like the other side, using identity politics. We ALL are in the same boat, being attacked by the anti-2A forces. By the anti-freedom forces really.
 
Socialism always starts with hope and ends with cattle cars and mass graves.

omega42 said:
Anti gun Jews are failing or refusing to learn from history. So are anti gun homosexuals. Stating the obvious for most here: civilian disarmament is a critical tipping point into tyranny.

It's not just guns though. The people who support civilian disarmament also generally support state socialism. They have a belief that somehow we will magically get socialist dictatorship "right" and everyone will be happy, well fed, and cared for.
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Boris said:
Around Thnxgiving time, past few years in the row my mother always brought up the Holodomor that took lives of many of my family members.
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Holodomor Remembrance Day is A Thing
(last Saturday in November, I see).

Yours is actually the first account I've read of an actual observance,
as opposed to annual blog postings on Volokh Conspiracy
of the day's existence and meaning.

Tell her: keep up the good work.
 
free said:
Oh Christ, here we go again. It's not about jews or homos, it's about ALL of us. You pontificators sound like the other side, using identity politics. We ALL are in the same boat, being attacked by the anti-2A forces. By the anti-freedom forces really.
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I left out a specific call out to Nazi Germany so here it is. I also didn't name check the Roma because they're not a significant presence in the U.S. While you are correct that nobody is safe, this is a thread about Jews waking up.
 
Radtekk said:
All too often people forget. Judaism is a RELIGION, not a race. Semites are people genetically similar in makeup, generally considered to include the countries surrounding the Mediterranean. So Jews, Arabs, Northern Africa, Italians, Sicilians, maybe some southern Spain folks also. Also, a RELIGION is something that one can convert to. Once CANNOT change race. So a Jew can "become" Catholic, Buddhist, or Taoist for that matter. But an Irishman CANNOT become Polish, nor can an Asian become Hispanic, or a Negroid (VERY specifically chosen term) change to Caucasoid.

My brother married an Italian Catholic girl. She decided that she liked a different denomination when they moved. Their boys are both raised and Baptized as Christians. IDGAF which version, they're my NEPHEWS first, religion isn't at issue, but DAMN sure they aren't "half Jewish". Seriously, what does that even MEAN???

Me? Family from Russia, Poland, England, Austria that I know of. What am I? AMERICAN. Period. Full stop.
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You gaslighting us bro? If Judaism isn't a race why does Israel require a DNA test to immigrate? As to Jews being woke they will ask for protections for themselves separate from rights and privileges afforded goys.
 
Climbnsink said:
You gaslighting us bro? If Judaism isn't a race why does Israel require a DNA test to immigrate? As to Jews being woke they will ask for protections for themselves separate from rights and privileges afforded goys.
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Children of friends immigrated to Israel as adults. I never heard any nonsense about DNA tests.
 

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