That's actually not too bad of an idea. lol
And then you can add your CCW Badge and Sash.
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That's actually not too bad of an idea. lol
That's actually not too bad of an idea. lol
. When the 3rd guy joined them,
that made three armed men without badges.
That worried me and I was fearful. Because these guys were not what people expected to see.
Since the full-size M&P is Woburn PD issue, and the haircuts were GI, I assumed these
guys were not just some Mass Rifle members on their way home from the range.
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And then you can add your CCW Badge and Sash.
I do this except my badge says "Colgate Cavity Patrol."
You do understand that MA is actually an OC state though right? So what are you calling the cops for, and what standard aren't they following if they were cops?I would call the cops in a second.
But not for the reason as the OP. If I can't carry openly, then a non-uniformed cop sholdn't be able to carry openly.
A simple call to 911 of a MWAG might remind said cop that most of us live in a state with severely diminished rights.
Cops need to live by the same rules that the rest of us live by. Holding him to the same standards of disarmament as the rest of us when he is off duty is a start.
Since most cops are neither better trained, more proficient, or better vetted than the average shooting enthusiast, I don't see why there should be any difference.
Remember, MA LEOs only have to qualify once a year. That is the only time many of them ever shoot.
Don
You do understand that MA is actually an OC state though right? So what are you calling the cops for, and what standard aren't they following if they were cops?
I believe it's been mentioned in the thread multiple times that it took place in MA.Maybe because the guy that posted the response you quoted is from CT. ?
Like I said before, I am absolutely tracking as to why no one in MA OC on a regular basis. The incident the OP listed took place in MA, not CT. So we are talking about calling the cops on the guys in MA who are possibly cops, or seals, or citizens. And if they are cops, then they should have to abide by the same rules as everyone else etc ( even though you aren't from MA ). So if you're from CT and you're OC , it's no biggie because the cops in CT got the memo. But because cops in MA only shoot once a year, you're unsuitable if you're OC. Even though many MA residents posted here about OC in MA with no problems at all. I get it, you don't like cops.Well, then maybe I'll explain briefly.
GPP - if you are from CT and you piss off a LEO OCing. The worst that will happen is that you are arrested for breach of peace, then they will drop the charges. If you are unlucky, the DESPP will pull your pistol permit. You will then have a 6 month wait before going before the BFPE, who will order the DESPP to give you back your PP. And everyone lived happily ever after.
But even that scenario is unlikely since most PDs have "gotten the memo" that OC is legal in CT. Nobodys been arrested in a couple of years for OCing in CT despite the fact that there are hundreds who do it every day.
Like CT, MA does not have any law prohibiting OC. However, in MA you must have a LTC or FID to even POSSESS firearms. Also MA has given the issuing authority broad latitude (nearly infinite authority) in who they deem suitable and not suitable. The result of these two facts is that if you piss off someone while OCing and it gets back to your chief, he can pull your LTC. At that point you lose all of your guns, if you don't get them out of the state in time.
So you have lost your property without due process. You can not own or possess firearms in MA. And you have nearly no recourse.
The guns could be held by a nice PD and allowed to be transferred to a FFL who could sell them for you.
A nasty PD will send them to a bonded warehouse, where storage fees will accrue at such a rate that by the time you get the ok to get them, you will owe the BW more than the guns are worth.
I hope that you can see there is a huge difference between the two states as to the advisability of OC.
You do understand that in reality it is not an open carry state, or at least it depends on the attitude of your issuing authority. If you need me to explain why, let me know.
Don