I wrote a letter to the Boston globe

namedpipes said:
You won't be thinking straight when you're standing there cheering the lead runners in the marathon and a nearby backpack blows up. Or the thug walks onto your train and starts shooting at a rival gang member.
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And just how do you know for sure someone "won't be thinking straight?" when shit goes down?
I personally have the utmost, supreme confidence in myself that I absolutely WILL be thinking straight when ANYTHING goes down. It's what I mentally train for every day, literally every time I holster my gun in the mornin..... I honestly mentally prepare myself that today could indeed be the day that I'll need to draw my CCW and use it.
And if it's necessary to use it to save my life or my children? I'm 99.99% sure that I'll think straight. Because I know myself better than anyone, and while I'm not eager to kill another human being I can absolutely guarantee you that I will, if indeed necessary.
I may be "shaken up" afterwards -
or maybe I'll just go have coffee and a danish.
 
Flame suit is on, but I wouldnt have used "liberal" in the letter. It makes a point (that though often is not always valid), but instantly polarizes the topic beyond a reasonable discussion. Just my .02

Mike

Sent from my cell phone with a tiny keyboard and large thumbs...
 
crazymjb said:
Flame suit is on, but I wouldnt have used "liberal" in the letter. It makes a point (that though often is not always valid), but instantly polarizes the topic beyond a reasonable discussion. Just my .02

Mike

Sent from my cell phone with a tiny keyboard and large thumbs...
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I've never seen a reasonable discussion about guns between conservatives and progressives. Is that a thing?
 
The liberals I've met that own guns have been FUDDs and big-time supporters of gun control. I've met plenty of similarly minded conservatives too but the difference is that unlike conservatives, I've never come across a liberal who was NOT at best a FUDD. The leftist/liberal/democratic/progressive mentality fundamentally goes against the spirit of the 2A, i.e. freedom and responsibility. The "liberals" that truly support gun rights are really only liberals because they support things like gay marriage and abortions, which simply makes them libertarians that haven't realized it yet.
 
kalash said:
The liberals I've met that own guns have been FUDDs and big-time supporters of gun control. I've met plenty of similarly minded conservatives too but the difference is that unlike conservatives, I've never come across a liberal who was NOT at best a FUDD. The leftist/liberal/democratic/progressive mentality fundamentally goes against the spirit of the 2A, i.e. freedom and responsibility. The "liberals" that truly support gun rights are really only liberals because they support things like gay marriage and abortions, which simply makes them libertarians that haven't realized it yet.
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I have a liberal relative's pistol in the bottom of my safe bc he let his license expire. He wanted a P226 just because so he had a holster made for it... Before he even renewed the license (still waiting on the license).

The drivel I've seen him post and repost on social media makes me sick: He is a gun owner but no friend to the RKBA. Typical MA progressive.
 
bigblue said:
I have a liberal relative's pistol in the bottom of my safe bc he let his license expire. He wanted a P226 just because so he had a holster made for it... Before he even renewed the license (still waiting on the license).

The drivel I've seen him post and repost on social media makes me sick: He is a gun owner but no friend to the RKBA. Typical MA progressive.
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Damn shame. Hopefully you purge a little bit of it's liberal roots at the range every now and then. [lol]
 
He still doesn't have his license yet the holster arrived in December and the pistol I am holding for him is a .380 so I'm not going to shoot it much. He won't be able to buy the 226 until the license goes through and who knows when that is. He shoots maybe 50 rounds at the range and then gets bored.

Worst kind of gun owner there is. Well second worst: At least he doesn't have any bumper stickers. Nothing like "I don't need 30 rounds to kill a deer".
 
Doesn't #4 buckshot have close to 30 pellets? So sometimes you DO need 30 projectiles to kill a deer [mg]
 
GlockJock said:
And just how do you know for sure someone "won't be thinking straight?" when shit goes down?
I personally have the utmost, supreme confidence in myself that I absolutely WILL be thinking straight when ANYTHING goes down. It's what I mentally train for every day, literally every time I holster my gun in the mornin..... I honestly mentally prepare myself that today could indeed be the day that I'll need to draw my CCW and use it.
And if it's necessary to use it to save my life or my children? I'm 99.99% sure that I'll think straight. Because I know myself better than anyone, and while I'm not eager to kill another human being I can absolutely guarantee you that I will, if indeed necessary.
I may be "shaken up" afterwards -
or maybe I'll just go have coffee and a danish.
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well said!! IMHO if you don't have this mentality when you holster your weapon, then you shouldn't be holstering one to begin with.
 
GlockJock said:
And just how do you know for sure someone "won't be thinking straight?" when shit goes down?
I personally have the utmost, supreme confidence in myself that I absolutely WILL be thinking straight when ANYTHING goes down. It's what I mentally train for every day, literally every time I holster my gun in the mornin..... I honestly mentally prepare myself that today could indeed be the day that I'll need to draw my CCW and use it.
And if it's necessary to use it to save my life or my children? I'm 99.99% sure that I'll think straight. Because I know myself better than anyone, and while I'm not eager to kill another human being I can absolutely guarantee you that I will, if indeed necessary.
I may be "shaken up" afterwards -
or maybe I'll just go have coffee and a danish.
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stringbean said:
well said!! IMHO if you don't have this mentality when you holster your weapon, then you shouldn't be holstering one to begin with.
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If you are this nonchalant about killing a human being, you've got issues. Also, I think there's a big difference between mentally preparing yourself as you put your pants on in the morning and actually reacting to a sudden threat with a clear head while adrenaline is flowing, heart is pumping, and things are moving much faster than whatever you practiced at the range or pictured that morning. Sitting where I am now I know exactly how to react to the many situations I've thought of before but at the same time I realize that that won't necessarily translate into the right action if the biological matter hits the ventilating device. I've been in situations (thankfully not gun related) where I froze up, some where I acted quickly but in hindsight should've acted differently, and others where I acted correctly and instantaneously. For me the scary part of carrying is that I don't know for sure how I'll actually react when SHTF and that's where training comes in because it helps deal with the stress of a situation. I've gotten to that point with driving via racing (I react to road hazards on instict, before adrenaline has time to kick in) and now I'm trying to learn the same for shooting.

Then again my two cents are probably worthless - I don't claim to be any sort of expert and the above is just off the top of my head.
 
kalash said:
If you are this nonchalant about killing a human being, you've got issues. Also, I think there's a big difference between mentally preparing yourself as you put your pants on in the morning and actually reacting to a sudden threat with a clear head while adrenaline is flowing, heart is pumping, and things are moving much faster than whatever you practiced at the range or pictured that morning. Sitting where I am now I know exactly how to react to the many situations I've thought of before but at the same time I realize that that won't necessarily translate into the right action if the biological matter hits the ventilating device. I've been in situations (thankfully not gun related) where I froze up, some where I acted quickly but in hindsight should've acted differently, and others where I acted correctly and instantaneously. For me the scary part of carrying is that I don't know for sure how I'll actually react when SHTF and that's where training comes in because it helps deal with the stress of a situation. I've gotten to that point with driving via racing (I react to road hazards on instict, before adrenaline has time to kick in) and now I'm trying to learn the same for shooting.

Then again my two cents are probably worthless - I don't claim to be any sort of expert and the above is just off the top of my head.
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i agree! Anyone nonchalant about taking a life has a serious problem! I was speaking to the mindset. Nobody can predict the future, or know exactly how they will react to a given situation. I believe in living everyday with a confident winning mindset, no matter what I'm doing.
 
bigblue said:
He still doesn't have his license yet the holster arrived in December and the pistol I am holding for him is a .380 so I'm not going to shoot it much. He won't be able to buy the 226 until the license goes through and who knows when that is. He shoots maybe 50 rounds at the range and then gets bored.

Worst kind of gun owner there is. Well second worst: At least he doesn't have any bumper stickers. Nothing like "I don't need 30 rounds to kill a deer".
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sell the gun, keep the profits, buy him a break-action 12GA out of the bargain bin at a shop.
 
crazymjb said:
Flame suit is on, but I wouldnt have used "liberal" in the letter. It makes a point (that though often is not always valid), but instantly polarizes the topic beyond a reasonable discussion. Just my .02
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I wouldn't either but only for a different reason, I don't like the fact that "liberal" has been hijacked by socialists/commies. Then again in this part of the country it doesn't matter so much, if we were in the south somewhere might be a different story, there are "liberals" that are pretty ardent about their guns in other parts of the country, not so much in MA... then again in MA half of our republicans are considered liberal by national standards.

I can see what you're saying though, if he simply addressed the guy as an "anti gun person" or something like that it would suck more of the wind out of the sails of the opposition to the letter- by removing opportunity to attack it on other avenues, it makes the attackers look that much more weak and desperate, and deranged- in other words, you want it to look like anyone opposing this viewpoint is going full retard, instead of changing the subject and launching into a screed about ad hominem attacks etc.

-Mike
 
Since this story has been picked up by a few conservative sites, do you think the cell phone guy has seen it? From the original letter it would seem he would be the type to get Globe home delivery.
 
Was just on WCVB Facebook page looking at comments on the Ayer gun/explosives story and one woman comments "Guy you saw on train" 1hr ago!!!!! Just figured I'd share.
 
GlockJock said:
And just how do you know for sure someone "won't be thinking straight?" when shit goes down?
I personally have the utmost, supreme confidence in myself that I absolutely WILL be thinking straight when ANYTHING goes down. It's what I mentally train for every day, literally every time I holster my gun in the mornin..... I honestly mentally prepare myself that today could indeed be the day that I'll need to draw my CCW and use it.
And if it's necessary to use it to save my life or my children? I'm 99.99% sure that I'll think straight. Because I know myself better than anyone, and while I'm not eager to kill another human being I can absolutely guarantee you that I will, if indeed necessary.
I may be "shaken up" afterwards -
or maybe I'll just go have coffee and a danish.
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That's a lot of confidence.
 
GlockJock said:
And just how do you know for sure someone "won't be thinking straight?" when shit goes down?
I personally have the utmost, supreme confidence in myself that I absolutely WILL be thinking straight when ANYTHING goes down. It's what I mentally train for every day, literally every time I holster my gun in the mornin..... I honestly mentally prepare myself that today could indeed be the day that I'll need to draw my CCW and use it.
And if it's necessary to use it to save my life or my children? I'm 99.99% sure that I'll think straight. Because I know myself better than anyone, and while I'm not eager to kill another human being I can absolutely guarantee you that I will, if indeed necessary.
I may be "shaken up" afterwards -
or maybe I'll just go have coffee and a danish.
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kalash said:
If you are this nonchalant about killing a human being, you've got issues. Also, I think there's a big difference between mentally preparing yourself as you put your pants on in the morning and actually reacting to a sudden threat with a clear head while adrenaline is flowing, heart is pumping, and things are moving much faster than whatever you practiced at the range or pictured that morning. Sitting where I am now I know exactly how to react to the many situations I've thought of before but at the same time I realize that that won't necessarily translate into the right action if the biological matter hits the ventilating device. I've been in situations (thankfully not gun related) where I froze up, some where I acted quickly but in hindsight should've acted differently, and others where I acted correctly and instantaneously. For me the scary part of carrying is that I don't know for sure how I'll actually react when SHTF and that's where training comes in because it helps deal with the stress of a situation. I've gotten to that point with driving via racing (I react to road hazards on instict, before adrenaline has time to kick in) and now I'm trying to learn the same for shooting.

Then again my two cents are probably worthless - I don't claim to be any sort of expert and the above is just off the top of my head.
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Nobody knows what they are going to do in any given situation until confronted with it. Yes, training does help with decision making but it is not the only determining factor when a life or death situation arises.
I don't think GlockJock has issues. Maybe he deals with gangbangers, dope users, violent convicts, and other individuals everyday who do not value human life at all. Maybe he has already been a victim of a violent crime or a family member has. Maybe this has taught him that when the time comes to act upon any life endangering situation, the criminal will follow through at all costs to accomplish their goal and he will be forced to defend himself or his family at all cost. All of these examples lead back to my first sentence. I highly doubt there will be any celebration after he is assumed guilty by the police and liberal minded media for at least six months after the incident. There is no way in hell that he won't be "shaken up" but at least he'll be alive.
 
LTCRN said:
Nobody knows what they are going to do in any given situation until confronted with it. Yes, training does help with decision making but it is not the only determining factor when a life or death situation arises.
I don't think GlockJock has issues. Maybe he deals with gangbangers, dope users, violent convicts, and other individuals everyday who do not value human life at all. Maybe he has already been a victim of a violent crime or a family member has. Maybe this has taught him that when the time comes to act upon any life endangering situation, the criminal will follow through at all costs to accomplish their goal and he will be forced to defend himself or his family at all cost. All of these examples lead back to my first sentence. I highly doubt there will be any celebration after he is assumed guilty by the police and liberal minded media for at least six months after the incident. There is no way in hell that he won't be "shaken up" but at least he'll be alive.
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there's nothing like a nice donut or cookie when you're feeling down or a pick me up after an adrenaline dump.
 
kalash said:
If you are this nonchalant about killing a human being, you've got issues. Also, I think there's a big difference between mentally preparing yourself as you put your pants on in the morning and actually reacting to a sudden threat with a clear head while adrenaline is flowing, heart is pumping, and things are moving much faster than whatever you practiced at the range or pictured that morning. Sitting where I am now I know exactly how to react to the many situations I've thought of before but at the same time I realize that that won't necessarily translate into the right action if the biological matter hits the ventilating device. I've been in situations (thankfully not gun related) where I froze up, some where I acted quickly but in hindsight should've acted differently, and others where I acted correctly and instantaneously. For me the scary part of carrying is that I don't know for sure how I'll actually react when SHTF and that's where training comes in because it helps deal with the stress of a situation. I've gotten to that point with driving via racing (I react to road hazards on instict, before adrenaline has time to kick in) and now I'm trying to learn the same for shooting.

Then again my two cents are probably worthless - I don't claim to be any sort of expert and the above is just off the top of my head.
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It's not non-chalant, it's knowing yourself and the confidence you BELIEVE you will have (and DO have). Period.
If someone is gonna carry a gun to feel cool or feel powerful blah blah blah then hey, that's great. I'm just saying I carry and BELIEVE I will be 100% cool when and God forbid if I should ever have to use it.
You either BELIEVE in yourself or you "think" you might do well in a fight. Walk into a UFC fight not a hundred percent BELIEVING in yourself and you might as well tap out during the introductions... Stand in the on-deck circle with a hint of doubt that you can get a hit off of Clayton Kershaw and you can just tell the ump to yell "Strike Three!" as you're walking to the plate.
Strap a gun IWB in the morning with any doubt that you'll be supremely confident should you need to draw and use it? You might as well just call 911 instead.... I'm not being non-chalant nor callous nor anything in what I said, other than that I believe in myself, and my abilities, and my training, and, especially, in my ability to remain calm when sh*t goes down. I hear a LOT of doubt casters here saying "Well, you'll probably be nervous and heart racing" etc when presented with a "situation".
Buy into that mentality if you choose, but I'd rather believe in myself that I will be cool before and after an "incident". Everyone is different in life, not everyone handles things and reacts to things the way others do. You read every day about "heroes" who acted cool when others sh*t their pants or freeze up, etc... I just happen to BELIEVE that I'd be calm and cool before AND after an incident, and I'd rather live with that BELIEF than with any doubt.
I sincerely hope to NEVER have to find out, but.... you call it "non-chalant"... I call it "believing in yourself". Period.
 
Cloverleaf Firearms Group said:
That's a lot of confidence.
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And it's honestly and sincerely a pleasure to have it. See my previous post above about reaction and confidence/belief under stress. If someone else doesn't have it? Hey, what can I say other than I DO have it. And I'd rather be that way than have ANY self doubt about ANYTHING. I simply believe in myself.

Period.
 
GlockJock said:
And it's honestly and sincerely a pleasure to have it. See my previous post above about reaction and confidence/belief under stress. If someone else doesn't have it? Hey, what can I say other than I DO have it. And I'd rather be that way than have ANY self doubt about ANYTHING. I simply believe in myself.

Period.
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True never been in a fight I wasn't gunna win in my mind. Same thing game point in a pickup game gimme the ball I'm sticking that shot no matter what you do to try and stop me. I think GlockJock is coming off to some people as brash because he thinks he will be fine if the situation arises. Well he should because you need to have confidence in a million different things. Clearing the holster not accidentally touching one off while bringing the gun up and escalating the situation and scaring your own pants off. Aiming shooting and being able to diagnose the situation as to where you don't go to jail. Engaging multiples etc etc. It's not holy crap I have to pull my gun fumble with it then the bad guy presents himself saying he's done you can shoot him now.

I got your back on this one GlockJock better to be a dead idiot who tried to do something than a dead sheep who waited for a bullet. Or even better an alive person
 
LTCRN said:
Nobody knows what they are going to do in any given situation until confronted with it. Yes, training does help with decision making but it is not the only determining factor when a life or death situation arises.
I don't think GlockJock has issues. Maybe he deals with gangbangers, dope users, violent convicts, and other individuals everyday who do not value human life at all. Maybe he has already been a victim of a violent crime or a family member has. Maybe this has taught him that when the time comes to act upon any life endangering situation, the criminal will follow through at all costs to accomplish their goal and he will be forced to defend himself or his family at all cost. All of these examples lead back to my first sentence. I highly doubt there will be any celebration after he is assumed guilty by the police and liberal minded media for at least six months after the incident. There is no way in hell that he won't be "shaken up" but at least he'll be alive.
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All I can say is I've been through more situations than anyone I know. And I've been fine before AND after. And if I'm gonna (or anyone else here) be worried that the pisshead MA idiots are gonna be extremely upset with me should I have to use a gun, then I wouldn't even carry the thing to begin with.... We all know they would fry my ass if I DARED to defend myself here in the CommonPuke where "they" really don't encourage self help.
If you insist that you'd be "shaken up" before, during and/or after using a firearm in self defense then go ahead and tell yourself that. I don't ever tell anyone else what to believe. I can only tell you, having been in situations, what I believe, and I believe in my ability to remain calm should I ever be faced with yet another "situation". That's all. I'm not being nonchalant or bravado, or whatever. But to use a different analogy, and I'm NOT comparing the two and not saying it's "just like killing someone in self defense", but remember the guy Sully who landed the jet in the Hudson? The one thing, in his own words, that helped him in that situation was training and believing in himself.
Maybe I didn't phrase it the way I intended to initially, but that's what I was trying to get at. Think Sully drove to the airport with any self doubt that morning? He believed in himself and the entire world said "Wow, listen to his radio transmissions, and look at what he did.. imagine being that cool under stress??" etc etc etc. And I just prefer to believe in myself and have zero self doubt. That's all. You might wanna have the thoughts in your head "There's no way someone wouldn't be shook up" etc.
I just happen to disagree. That's all.
 
GlockJock said:
It's not non-chalant, it's knowing yourself and the confidence you BELIEVE you will have (and DO have). Period.
If someone is gonna carry a gun to feel cool or feel powerful blah blah blah then hey, that's great. I'm just saying I carry and BELIEVE I will be 100% cool when and God forbid if I should ever have to use it.
You either BELIEVE in yourself or you "think" you might do well in a fight. Walk into a UFC fight not a hundred percent BELIEVING in yourself and you might as well tap out during the introductions... Stand in the on-deck circle with a hint of doubt that you can get a hit off of Clayton Kershaw and you can just tell the ump to yell "Strike Three!" as you're walking to the plate.
Strap a gun IWB in the morning with any doubt that you'll be supremely confident should you need to draw and use it? You might as well just call 911 instead.... I'm not being non-chalant nor callous nor anything in what I said, other than that I believe in myself, and my abilities, and my training, and, especially, in my ability to remain calm when sh*t goes down. I hear a LOT of doubt casters here saying "Well, you'll probably be nervous and heart racing" etc when presented with a "situation".
Buy into that mentality if you choose, but I'd rather believe in myself that I will be cool before and after an "incident". Everyone is different in life, not everyone handles things and reacts to things the way others do. You read every day about "heroes" who acted cool when others sh*t their pants or freeze up, etc... I just happen to BELIEVE that I'd be calm and cool before AND after an incident, and I'd rather live with that BELIEF than with any doubt.
I sincerely hope to NEVER have to find out, but.... you call it "non-chalant"... I call it "believing in yourself". Period.
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