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No restriction, but reportable by the FFL.
You can buy them, but the FFL must file a separate form if you buy multiple pistols within five days of each other. Nominally it's intended to help track black market/straw purchases/gunrunning, etc.
I am not sure the regulations support the ATF coming down on Not Tom but as you said, who will fight it? The solution is to have an ffl run the buy or have the non ffl become an employee of a ffl. I have two employees that front end sales all the time.Yeah he got them up his ass sideways for administering group buys without an FFL. As far as the feds are concerned you cannot collect money even if you're not touching the guns. Dealers need to do this. He didn't get charged or anything but they more or less scared him out of doing it. May not be based in law but who is going to hire a lawyer to protect a skinflint GB?
This is why you never see gun GBs anymore unless the guy that set it up has a dealer administering the back end of the whole thing (taking the money, receiving the guns).
There isn't one, but if you buy like 10 shithouse guns like Hi Points or other garbage like that at a time, people tell me the odds of getting a visit go up
If you buy a handgun every 6 days, I wonder if they can get you for "structuring".You can buy them, but the FFL must file a separate form if you buy multiple pistols within five days of each other. Nominally it's intended to help track black market/straw purchases/gunrunning, etc.
Good point. I had a friend that worked at a bank and she told me if anyone even hinted they were trying to subvert the $10k cash rule (Patriot Act? I don't recall), they had to do the paperwork (i.e., asking what the max was, depositing $9,999.99, etc.). Nevertheless, lots of people apparently did deposits of like $6k regularly, which was likely trying to get around the reporting requirements.If you buy a handgun every 6 days, I wonder if they can get you for "structuring".
If that was ever actually a thing they have thousands of people to chase after because I know guys that will buy a new gun every two to three weeks or whenever they get paid... lolIf you buy a handgun every 6 days, I wonder if they can get you for "structuring".
I see the atf at least a couple times a year. It usually goes like this
“hey jim, how are you doing?”
“Great how’s business?”
“Busy. Who are you interviewing today?”
“John Smith across the hall”
“ great guy, that makes 63?”
“60, but I have more interviews scheduled next week”
“Sounds good, we will make sure they all know how stuff works. See you soon”
or some variation on that.
Not unlike cops: I wonder how many ATF agents are actually really good people that like their job and are just wanting to be good and fair at it, and how many others are power-tripping douche bags?